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Do you believe these Rumours to be true?
Yes
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No
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BlackStone



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, he does.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RE.Heaven+ Hell tour rumour

http://www.black-sabbath.com/news/index.html
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Metal Hammer News has this report.....
This is just in from Total Rock:

"Unconfirmed reports suggest that Ronnie James Dio, Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward are to re-unite under the name of Heaven And Hell. This is the title of the classic 1980 album they recorded as Black Sabbath. The foursome are said to be planning UK shows in February."

Again nothing has been confirmed! Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be sooooo killer! But they MUST come to the states! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GUITARGOD wrote:
That would be sooooo killer! But they MUST come to the states! Very Happy


Well you would think so... Cool
I mean whats the point of it all just for a few festivals and UK tour Exclamation
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would hope so but you never know for sure with this stuff. Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have add a poll to this topic.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your poll isn't working. And when I say that, I am in no way trying to insult your masculinity.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bad. I thought it would take me to the poll if I clicked on page 1. Me am so stupid. The poll is there if you click on the word 'poll'. Imagine that! Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bildo wrote:
My bad. I thought it would take me to the poll if I clicked on page 1. Me am so stupid. The poll is there if you click on the word 'poll'. Imagine that! Confused



Laughing Laughing please stop my cheeks are sore Laughing Laughing

I mean from laughing Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holymagica wrote:
Bildo wrote:
My bad. I thought it would take me to the poll if I clicked on page 1. Me am so stupid. The poll is there if you click on the word 'poll'. Imagine that! Confused



Laughing Laughing please stop my cheeks are sore Laughing Laughing

I mean from laughing Razz


Are you just trying to make me say the word 'Uranus' again? Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:14 pm    Post subject: Update from Joe Siegler today! Reply with quote

A few remarks by me on all this:

Today was not the first time I had heard these rumours. Running this
site I hear all kinds of things, and generally I tend to discount them
- but this one had some more weight to it, so I decided to do some
poking around on my own. While I can't get anyone to officially say
anything about this, it does seem to have the air of an authentic
story to me. Heck, I can't get any official word about who is even
playing on the new tracks for the Dio Years set, besides Iommi & Dio.
One would hope it's the same four guys (Iommi/Butler/Ward/Dio), but I
can't get official confirmation of that one, either.

So it's known that the Dio Years box set is happening. When - who
knows, although I would imagine sooner rather than later. What the
contents of the set are is also officially unknown. I've been hearing
some rumours about specific content, but I don't really want to spread
any more FUD about that issue, so I'll leave that out for now. Suffice
it to say if what I heard is true, fans will really like it.

The other issue I wanted to say something about was the bit about
legally not being able to call themselves Black Sabbath. A few points
about this.. Ronnie has stated on many interviews and on his website
that he would not be rejoining Black Sabbath. Assuming you take that
as true, the rumour I heard that it was a choice to call themselves
Heaven & Hell and not Black Sabbath should be taken as correct. The
other side to that is the ownership of "Black Sabbath". It's always
been my knowledge that in the mid 80's Tony Iommi bought all the
rights, and to this day retains such ownership. There was a lot of
stories that in order to get Ozzy to come back in 1997, some of that
ownership would have to be given to the Osbournes. Now I want to say
this. I am a fan. A somewhat connected fan, but I still am a fan. I'm
an idiot if I think I know everything - I do not. But I do pay
attention, and I have never seen anything that tells me that the
ownership situation of "Black Sabbath" has changed. My educated guess
tells me that this bit about legally not being able to use the name
Black Sabbath is incorrect, that it's a choice to do that. If I hear
anything factually to counteract that, I will retract my opinion here.

Having said all this stuff, this is a very exciting possibility. To
sum up:

Known Facts:

* There will be a "Black Sabbath: The Dio Years" box set.
* Said box set will contain at least two newly recorded tracks.
* Tony & Ronnie collaborated on the newly recorded tracks.

Rumours/Speculation:

These are all unconfirmed - so don't take it as fact, eh? Smile

* Geezer Butler & Bill Ward will comprise the rhythm section on the
new tracks.
* Iommi/Butler/Ward/Dio will tour in 2007 as "Heaven & Hell".
* They are not billing themselves as "Black Sabbath" due to legal
reasons - FALSE, see update below.
* The Dio Years set may include the video mentioned by Dio on the
Live Evil recordings.

Hopefully I can get some official confirmation about this stuff now
that the "word is out" so to speak. I do work for Bill Ward & Geezer
Butler, and am fairly friendly with Tony Iommi's people, so hopefully
I can find out something I can officially talk about. The only
"official" things are the three things listed above as "facts". The
rest is speculation. I hope it's all true. And if they do tour, they'd
better come to Dallas, dammit! Smile

Hmm... Dio replaced Ozzy back in 1979, and now it's (in a fashion)
being done again in 2007. Does this mean that a TV show with Ronnie
going "WENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDY, the dog crapped on the carpet
again!" is far behind? Wink

UPDATE Sep 28: I've since gotten email from an official source that
wishes to remain anonymous that I was 100% correct on the legal
situation with Tony Iommi and the name "Black Sabbath". It's still his
sandbox, so there's no legal reason that would stop them from going
out under the name Black Sabbath should they choose to. Should this
all come off, and the name "Heaven & Hell" is used, it's my belief
that it was some artistic choice, and not a legal one.

Joe Siegler
siegler@black-sabbath.com
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scot....what do you think?
Have you heard anything yourself Exclamation
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Update from Joe Siegler today! Reply with quote

ScotClayton wrote:
A few remarks by me on all this:

Today was not the first time I had heard these rumours. Running this
site I hear all kinds of things, and generally I tend to discount them
- but this one had some more weight to it, so I decided to do some
poking around on my own. While I can't get anyone to officially say
anything about this, it does seem to have the air of an authentic
story to me. Heck, I can't get any official word about who is even
playing on the new tracks for the Dio Years set, besides Iommi & Dio.
One would hope it's the same four guys (Iommi/Butler/Ward/Dio), but I
can't get official confirmation of that one, either.

So it's known that the Dio Years box set is happening. When - who
knows, although I would imagine sooner rather than later. What the
contents of the set are is also officially unknown. I've been hearing
some rumours about specific content, but I don't really want to spread
any more FUD about that issue, so I'll leave that out for now. Suffice
it to say if what I heard is true, fans will really like it.

The other issue I wanted to say something about was the bit about
legally not being able to call themselves Black Sabbath. A few points
about this.. Ronnie has stated on many interviews and on his website
that he would not be rejoining Black Sabbath. Assuming you take that
as true, the rumour I heard that it was a choice to call themselves
Heaven & Hell and not Black Sabbath should be taken as correct. The
other side to that is the ownership of "Black Sabbath". It's always
been my knowledge that in the mid 80's Tony Iommi bought all the
rights, and to this day retains such ownership. There was a lot of
stories that in order to get Ozzy to come back in 1997, some of that
ownership would have to be given to the Osbournes. Now I want to say
this. I am a fan. A somewhat connected fan, but I still am a fan. I'm
an idiot if I think I know everything - I do not. But I do pay
attention, and I have never seen anything that tells me that the
ownership situation of "Black Sabbath" has changed. My educated guess
tells me that this bit about legally not being able to use the name
Black Sabbath is incorrect, that it's a choice to do that. If I hear
anything factually to counteract that, I will retract my opinion here.

Having said all this stuff, this is a very exciting possibility. To
sum up:

Known Facts:

* There will be a "Black Sabbath: The Dio Years" box set.
* Said box set will contain at least two newly recorded tracks.
* Tony & Ronnie collaborated on the newly recorded tracks.

Rumours/Speculation:

These are all unconfirmed - so don't take it as fact, eh? Smile

* Geezer Butler & Bill Ward will comprise the rhythm section on the
new tracks.
* Iommi/Butler/Ward/Dio will tour in 2007 as "Heaven & Hell".
* They are not billing themselves as "Black Sabbath" due to legal
reasons - FALSE, see update below.
* The Dio Years set may include the video mentioned by Dio on the
Live Evil recordings.

Hopefully I can get some official confirmation about this stuff now
that the "word is out" so to speak. I do work for Bill Ward & Geezer
Butler, and am fairly friendly with Tony Iommi's people, so hopefully
I can find out something I can officially talk about. The only
"official" things are the three things listed above as "facts". The
rest is speculation. I hope it's all true. And if they do tour, they'd
better come to Dallas, dammit! Smile

Hmm... Dio replaced Ozzy back in 1979, and now it's (in a fashion)
being done again in 2007. Does this mean that a TV show with Ronnie
going "WENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDY, the dog crapped on the carpet
again!" is far behind? Wink

UPDATE Sep 28: I've since gotten email from an official source that
wishes to remain anonymous that I was 100% correct on the legal
situation with Tony Iommi and the name "Black Sabbath". It's still his
sandbox, so there's no legal reason that would stop them from going
out under the name Black Sabbath should they choose to. Should this
all come off, and the name "Heaven & Hell" is used, it's my belief
that it was some artistic choice, and not a legal one.

Joe Siegler
siegler@black-sabbath.com


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I do hope there never is a show "The Dio's" and if there is, it's nothing like " Rolling Eyes the Osbournes"
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