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Brollachan
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Holy: it's all true about the Martin era in BS: listen to When Death Calls (from HEADLESS CROSS), and write about your impressions here. This song will knock you down. No.... it will knock you out. So get ready! 
As for the post Dio era in Rainbow: I just listened to DIFFICULT TO CURE today, and to me it's clearly the best all around Rainbow album. I know JLT is nowhere near Ronnie, I know it lacks this sharper edge of the first three albums, but this stuff (with Ritchie in top form, and Airey not far behind) deserves a fair judgement. To cut it short: EXELLENT SONGS THAT KICK ASS. At least mine gets kicked whenever I give this album a listen. 
STRAIGHT BETWEEN THE EYES is not as good as DTC, but is also lively, athough you can feel the shadows of the early 80's pop sound here and there. Some folks like it, some not really. I like it. |
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Killer On The Loose
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Hi new to this forum and first post !!!
Rainbow will always be Rainbow no matter who sang for them although of course Ronnie was the best
My fav album was Rising nothing can beat it !!!
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Bobby66
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...Ay' Killer...WELCOME...  |
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Killer On The Loose
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Bobby66 wrote: |
| ...Ay' Killer...WELCOME... |
Cheers Bobby66 |
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dioisgod
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dio is my favorite heavy metal singer and the best with rainbow
that being said, i like quite a bit of post dio rainbow
street of dreams
stone cold
since you been gone
wolf to the moon
ariel
but dio is still the best
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METALLIAN
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| Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:40 am Post subject: Re: Rainbow-after Dio |
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| Everyone says Black Sabbath died when Ozzy left (yeah right), but I want to know if people think if Rainbow died when Dio left? "Cause I like Joe Lynn Turner and the three albums he made. What I found interesting is Ritchie Blackmore didn't forget Ronnie and a number of times I've heard other Rainbow singers sing Dio-era Rainbow songs. |
This is just my opinion...
After RJD left and Ritchie started making more streamlined and commercially more acceptable and successful music, the original idea of Rainbow ceased to exist. The truly artistic and unique dimension diminished away.
Of course, I do like the Joe Lynn Turner albums, that's for sure (he's a damn good singer, many good songs etc.), but those albums are not truly Rainbow in my mind. The name of the band should have been changed, that's all. Good albums, but under a different moniker...After listening to such masterpieces like Stargazer, 16th Century Greensleeves and Gates Of Babylon I really can't consider songs like Since You've Been Gone and I Surrender as Rainbow songs, no matter how good and beloved songs they are, for myself included. But that's just how I feel in the case of Rainbow. The original idea of Rainbow was just that: to catch the rainbow, not just dollars. If we talked about some other band and their musical directions, well...that's a completely another story.
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ZeusJupiter
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| I think that Doogie White was much better than jlt and the best aside from Dio |
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Bobby66
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| Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:13 am Post subject: Re: Rainbow-after Dio |
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| METALLIAN wrote: |
| The original idea of Rainbow was just that: to catch the rainbow, not just dollars. |
...WOW!...Now that is COOL!...if everyone thought like this...you guys would NEVER have to here me complain!... |
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The Eye
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| Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:21 am Post subject: |
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You're right, Metallian.
That's the true thing about Rainbow. After Ronnie left, it wasn't Rainbow anymore. It was another band.
There's nothing like Rainbow with Ronnie and Ritchie together, it's f*cking magical! (I think I don't have to mention that  )
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Brollachan
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| Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:58 am Post subject: Re: Rainbow-after Dio |
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| METALLIAN wrote: |
| The name of the band should have been changed, that's all. Good albums, but under a different moniker... |
The music of the Rainbow of the 80's may sound a bit different from the Stargazers, Babylons, Kill The Kings, etc, but it does not mean that the name should have been changed after Ron left. Only because they were more commercially oriented? Nahhhh... In other words, you're saying that Blackmore and Dio formed Rainbow for artistic purposes and after Dio called it quits, those purposes ended up in a litter bin, and Ritchie became a different man as he requently was caught humming "Money makes the world go round..."? Is that the decisive factor leading us to believe that a different moniker would have saved the legend of the original Rainbow?
Don't get me wrong, Metallian, I know I'm simplifying the issue right now, but the switch to let's say 'Rainbows' or 'Rainbow II' was not the best idea. If it had been, then they would have gone for it. But as we all know, they did not.
The music altered a bit. Yes, no need to argue here. But so changed the music of Yes, Pink Floyd, Zeppelin (In Through The Out Door vs Led Zep 1, how about this comparison), Queen, Judas Priest, Wishbone Ash, Kansas, etc. The issue here is not whether our favourite vocalist is still with the band or not, but whether or not we can accept the evolution of the music ideas, market requirements, etc. The bands listed above faced all of that. Same with Rainbow. As time passed by, the music of hundreds of bands evolved. That's the bottom line. |
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METALLIAN
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:37 pm Post subject: Re: Rainbow-after Dio |
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| Brollachan wrote: |
| METALLIAN wrote: |
| The name of the band should have been changed, that's all. Good albums, but under a different moniker... |
The music of the Rainbow of the 80's may sound a bit different from the Stargazers, Babylons, Kill The Kings, etc, but it does not mean that the name should have been changed after Ron left. Only because they were more commercially oriented? Nahhhh... In other words, you're saying that Blackmore and Dio formed Rainbow for artistic purposes and after Dio called it quits, those purposes ended up in a litter bin, and Ritchie became a different man as he requently was caught humming "Money makes the world go round..."? Is that the decisive factor leading us to believe that a different moniker would have saved the legend of the original Rainbow?
Don't get me wrong, Metallian, I know I'm simplifying the issue right now, but the switch to let's say 'Rainbows' or 'Rainbow II' was not the best idea. If it had been, then they would have gone for it. But as we all know, they did not.
The music altered a bit. Yes, no need to argue here. But so changed the music of Yes, Pink Floyd, Zeppelin (In Through The Out Door vs Led Zep 1, how about this comparison), Queen, Judas Priest, Wishbone Ash, Kansas, etc. The issue here is not whether our favourite vocalist is still with the band or not, but whether or not we can accept the evolution of the music ideas, market requirements, etc. The bands listed above faced all of that. Same with Rainbow. As time passed by, the music of hundreds of bands evolved. That's the bottom line. |
I understand and know your view, Brollachan. I understand it very well. I know that bands have naturally evolved into different musical directions throughout the years or even intentionally decided to change their style into something that people do not expect for in the first place. For example Judas Priest - one of the top 3 bands for me - has travelled through many different kinds of heavy metal styles throughout the years and that has been the key element and philosophy in their succesful career. And it has been very good to them and for us fans. Versatility and multitude pay off. I'm more than happy to have all their albums in my collection and I definitely like each and every single one of them as individual masterpieces.
Still, somehow, in the specific case of Rainbow, I just feel irresistably that Rainbow lost its spectrum of colours when they suddenly changed their direction into something more commercial and radio friendly. The truly artistic and unique worlds just faded away, giving room for something that would sell more to the general (non-musically enthusiastic) public. Nothing bad in that, of course commerciality is a good thing for a band and I do like the post-Dio songs very much, my favourites include both Graham Bonnet and Joe Lynn Turner songs like Eyes Of The World, All Night Long, Since You've Been Gone, Stone Cold, Street Of Dreams...But for me, Rainbow is Rainbow in full colours only when the timeline is between 1975 and 1979 and the tales are something from the world of magic and fantasy. That's all.
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Rainbow_Lightning
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| Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:58 pm Post subject: Rainbow |
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| I admit...Rainbow sounded a tad different...but the spirit of the before was kept alive (as with Sabbath) with different singers...I feel there's something there for everyone...Though I do admit, Rainbow's "Catch the Rainbow" was remade with the album Stranger in Us All! |
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Stratophony
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nah.... Difficult to Cure and Stranger in us All were still great albums. Not to far behind "long live Rock N Roll".
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Rainbow_Lightning
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| Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:58 pm Post subject: no |
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| I still love Rainbow...I sing more JLT songs than Dio songs (NOT because I don't love Dio's songs...I just can't sing like Ronnie...I mean I did Stargazer once and I was utterly exausted and by the end...it sounded pretty rough!)... |
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screaming_4_priest
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Stranger In Us All is awsome nearly as good a s the Dio stuff.
Areil is one of my fav all time Rainbow songs.
I wish Ritchie gave this lineup a chance, i think they could have come out with some killing material.
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