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Holymagica Guest
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Jeffrey
I did not know they did that with cds, seems pointless having fake needle grooves.
I still like listening to my records from time to time.
I found this...
120-140 g is a "normal" vinyl LP, like most new releases in the 20th century. 180 g is considered audiophile grade and most new releases and re-releases available today come out in this format. The record is thicker and heavier so it may be less prone to warping over time. Some claim sonic benefits on 180 g's like better stereo imaging, less noise, wider bandwidth, etc. Another factor is "virgin" vinyl (often a feature hand in hand with 180 g and heavier LPs) which uses no recycled plastic which can contain impurities leading to a noisier record.
Another factor is playback speed. 45 rpm records inherently sound better than 33.3 rpm's. I own Radiohead's "Hail to the Thief" on 12", 45 rpm, 180 g LPs. I think this is the highest quality though you get less time per side. Plus I've only listened to it a few times as I have to take apart my turntable to switch the belt to 45 rpm mode. It sounds great.
I don't think you can say that all 180 g sound better than 120 g as the quality is largely dependent on the recording, mastering and pressing.
For example, you could have the original UK pressing of an early Black Sabbath album that will sound better than any US release because they were initially mastered differently.
If it's available and I can afford it I always opt for a 180 g pressing, I just assume it must sound better, though this may be a sonic placebo. When I'm shopping I take the 180 g sticker a stamp of quality though I'm probably just falling for marketing. On the other hand it is much more expensive to press 180 g virgin vinyl so you must assume the band or label cared enough about the record to do it. |
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Jeffrey Killing The Dragon

Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 324
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Yes,
I know it is pointless to make a CD "look" like an album, but I guess they want us to feel nostalgic when we see the CD.
I remember even in the 1980s some of the albums were coming out thinner and thinner. While some of the Walt Disney albums from the 1970s were so thick in comparison. The thinner ones do warp more. And the weight and size give you a sense of quality.
Those without a turntable are missing out on a lot of good music. Like decoding an ancient code, there is a lot of music you can't listen to.
Thanks for the lesson on album manufacturing.
Jeffrey _________________ Ronnie James Dio is a legend |
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Holymagica Guest
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Jeffrey
I have just started recording my records on to a hard drive, mostly records that are deleted and hard to find.
I am really enjoying going through all my collection which has been in boxes for years.
I bought some crap back in the 80s ...thank goodness for DIO! |
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Jeffrey Killing The Dragon

Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 324
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, but it is fun once in a while to take that trip down memory lane. When I get in the mood and play some of that stuff, makes me feel like a rock and roll rebel again.
Gotta love those old days.
Jeffrey _________________ Ronnie James Dio is a legend |
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Driftin Elf

Joined: 04 Jun 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Vale,OR
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Completely agree! Just try to find the Kerry Livgren CD. Paying 35 bucks for a import CD to get one song just isn't cool either. I missed out on the Tournado box set, so Electra is yet another I don't forsee having. Maybe I'll find a MP3 somewhere. I would prefer to buy a real CD with it (as well as others you mentioned)on it.
The Mr. Crowley Malmstein/Dio cover would be a good addition as well.
I wish someone would also look further back into re-releasing the Elves albums, and such as some of that was really good as well, and very hard to come by. _________________ ...and the time had come for the one to go to the temple of the king...RIP Ronnie. |
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