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 Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:01 pm Post subject: Lyric Interpretation |
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Did RJD ever describe the interpretation of his phrases or complete songs? Phrases such as "ride the tiger, you can see his strips but you know he's clean." Many think the song is a about Heroin addiction, some think it's literally biblical I've also heard its a story about a Christ like figure who once saved the people and people refuse to listen to the figure claim there is no evil. If the 3rd interpretation is the correct one, was RJD creating a simile in this fantasy story to correlate to real life?
Anyway back to the phrase thing. I don't believe he create nonsensical phrases just cause they sound kewl or needed to rhyme. RJD thinks things through weather it's song writing or interviews. |
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I'm quite confident that Ronnie would be able to quote a specific meaning for all of his lyrics...but Holy diver seems like one of his songs that could only be deciphered by the person that penned it. So then, what is "The Tiger" 
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| hmm; indeed, Holy Diver is one of the songs hardest to understand, at least some parts. Others seem to be straightforward (between the velvet lies there's a truth that's hard as steel; a 19th century Portuguese poet wrote that "from under the vaporous clouds of fantasy emerges the brutal hardness of truth", which is similar), but Dio things rarely are straightforward... so there is proably a catch and then a catch of the catch. |
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| you can say that i'm far away from the truth but this is what i think : i heard an interview were dio talked of Holy diver and siad that everybody thinks the beast is the bad one even before they get to know it...well that made me came to a conclusion that people think the tiger is bad (because it's a wild and dangerous animal) but you can see that dio sings " you can see it's strips but you know it's clean"...that mean that it's not bad anyway...you can see it's strips like the cloths they wear in jail. but you know it's clean means he didn't do anything agianst the law... |
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DevinMacGregor
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:58 pm Post subject: Re: Lyric Interpretation |
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| really long nick name wrote: |
Did RJD ever describe the interpretation of his phrases or complete songs? Phrases such as "ride the tiger, you can see his strips but you know he's clean." Many think the song is a about Heroin addiction, some think it's literally biblical I've also heard its a story about a Christ like figure who once saved the people and people refuse to listen to the figure claim there is no evil. If the 3rd interpretation is the correct one, was RJD creating a simile in this fantasy story to correlate to real life?
Anyway back to the phrase thing. I don't believe he create nonsensical phrases just cause they sound kewl or needed to rhyme. RJD thinks things through whether it's song writing or interviews. |
Ronnie has said the third one in an interview. A christ like figure on another world who basically vanquishes evil but the people will not let him go saying evil still exists.
I do not believe he has a single book that has all his lyrics and what he meant by them. He has in interview going back 30 some years to where he has explained a song here and there like Children of the Sea. I had wondered if it has some greek mythology involved seeing it as the old gods dying because no one believed in them anymore but it turns out again on another world they people there did not stop to think should we do this but focused on could we do this and did it. This in turn destroys them and through their own actions they basically go extinct. A certain someone went biblical ballistic on me because I brought up comparisons to today and our environment. There is a track he did what was actually about chess but the name escapes me. Or chess inspired since he does get a kick with possible double meanings, one he actually meant and the ones we see. Kill the King comes to mind but I do not recall if that is the track or not.
Didn't recently for the Holy Diver tour they release a jacket that had an explanation for each track? I didn't buy it. Anyone?
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Havent we had this discussion before 
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| my wife has concluded it means absolutely nothing and is pissed about it - why do I lose so much time and money with something completely meaningless?! That's when I mention the word "shoes". |
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