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DevinMacGregor
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| I don't see the point to that post, you just turned a perfectly good topic bad. |
The title of the thread was a question so either this is a debate or him telling us what is. I was simply calling him on his word choice and intolerance to what others may like as they like albums he does not. Questioning people on their sanity as well is a bit much over what album they like over another.
It is one thing to have an opinion of liking one album over another it is quite another for diminishing another person's choices. I prefer the first two albums but I certainly would not call the rest steaming turds nor that anyone was insane for likely any of them over the first two albums.
I do not have a problem with people not liking one album over another but calling it a steaming turd and then saying another is insane for not liking his particular choice is over the top. Plus what the hell does Nevermet have to do with this?
I do not particularly pay attention to his posts but if he prefers I can start reviewing his other 99 posts and looking at all future ones.
This thread can continue but the ball is in his court in how it is to proceed or not proceed.
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my post wasn't towards you Devin, if that's how you took it. I should've quote GEORDIES to avoid confusion.
I was just saying that it was a good topic that I was interested in.
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GEORDIE
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| piracy_of_life wrote: |
| I don't see the point to that post, you just turned a perfectly good topic bad. |
The title of the thread was a question so either this is a debate or him telling us what is. I was simply calling him on his word choice and intolerance to what others may like as they like albums he does not. Questioning people on their sanity as well is a bit much over what album they like over another.
It is one thing to have an opinion of liking one album over another it is quite another for diminishing another person's choices. I prefer the first two albums but I certainly would not call the rest steaming turds nor that anyone was insane for likely any of them over the first two albums.
I do not have a problem with people not liking one album over another but calling it a steaming turd and then saying another is insane for not liking his particular choice is over the top. Plus what the hell does Nevermet have to do with this?
I do not particularly pay attention to his posts but if he prefers I can start reviewing his other 99 posts and looking at all future ones.
This thread can continue but the ball is in his court in how it is to proceed or not proceed. |
i honestly can't believe you'd think i was being SERIOUS with my comments about people's sanity on this fourm. I was merely using a bit of hyperbole to try and get my point across. How could i judge a single person's sanity on this forum without ever having talked to them or met them? I'll say it again: i honestly can't believe that you thought i was SERIOUS.
Anyways, to get back on track....
Strange Highways >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing The Dragon |
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DevinMacGregor
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| GEORDIE wrote: |
| DevinMacGregor wrote: |
| piracy_of_life wrote: |
| I don't see the point to that post, you just turned a perfectly good topic bad. |
The title of the thread was a question so either this is a debate or him telling us what is. I was simply calling him on his word choice and intolerance to what others may like as they like albums he does not. Questioning people on their sanity as well is a bit much over what album they like over another.
It is one thing to have an opinion of liking one album over another it is quite another for diminishing another person's choices. I prefer the first two albums but I certainly would not call the rest steaming turds nor that anyone was insane for likely any of them over the first two albums.
I do not have a problem with people not liking one album over another but calling it a steaming turd and then saying another is insane for not liking his particular choice is over the top. Plus what the hell does Nevermet have to do with this?
I do not particularly pay attention to his posts but if he prefers I can start reviewing his other 99 posts and looking at all future ones.
This thread can continue but the ball is in his court in how it is to proceed or not proceed. |
i honestly can't believe you'd think i was being SERIOUS with my comments about people's sanity on this fourm. I was merely using a bit of hyperbole to try and get my point across. How could i judge a single person's sanity on this forum without ever having talked to them or met them? I'll say it again: i honestly can't believe that you thought i was SERIOUS.
Anyways, to get back on track....
Strange Highways >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing The Dragon |
First cut the bullshit with me, you were being an ass. You were being serious so cut the crap. You were trying to be a hard ass who believes he can say whatever he wants. If you were not then this should had been your reply to me not the other one. I just reviewed your comment on Music Makers over Nevermet so no you were not being funny but again in fact were being serious and simply being intolerant. Oh I get it, again hyperbole trying to get your point across by saying they suck and anyone who likes what they have created must be deaf. Oh yes completely exaggerated comments to get what point across ... that they suck and anyone who thinks otherwise is deaf?
You are back pedaling now. So get this hyperbole ... my finger is that much closer to the ban button.
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GEORDIE
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First cut the bullshit with me, you were being an ass. You were being serious so cut the crap. You were trying to be a hard ass who believes he can say whatever he wants. If you were not then this should had been your reply to me not the other one. I just reviewed your comment on Music Makers over Nevermet so no you were not being funny but again in fact were being serious and simply being intolerant. Oh I get it, again hyperbole trying to get your point across by saying they suck and anyone who likes what they have created must be deaf. Oh yes completely exaggerated comments to get what point across ... that they suck and anyone who thinks otherwise is deaf?
You are back pedaling now. So get this hyperbole ... my finger is that much closer to the ban button. |
1) I wouldn't care IN THE SLIGHEST if i was banned
2) Nevermet sucks and the only people who would like them would have to be deaf
3) I'm sure i'm banned now.....and can't say i'm disappointed  |
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DevinMacGregor
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my post wasn't towards you Devin, if that's how you took it. I should've quote GEORDIES to avoid confusion.
I was just saying that it was a good topic that I was interested in. |
We're cool. I took it to mean you were referring to him. When MOTM came out there were many who stated it was a steaming turd because they did not like the slow and ploddiness of that album to which many of them did not like Magica for the same reason. As well as not liking Craig's style. They preferred the faster playing style of Doug. Although Doug wrote just two tracks on that album with the rest being Craig.
Others as well do not like the Tracy G era and see both albums as steaming turds as well. I believe Ronnie as well does not like that era and has stated so in interviews. There is as well an interview of Ronnie saying the second side of Rising is self indulgent crap yet many fans love those two particular tracks.
So everyone has their tastes. Saying you feel this is the worst Dio album is one thing but calling it a steaming turd goes beyond hyperbole. Because there is no need to exaggerate one's point that they do not like that album. It does not invalidate another listener's choice. The same with the sanity comments. We all get the point that that person does not like that particular album so what is the point in using so called hyperboles to further state it? There is none but to insult people further.
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DevinMacGregor
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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First cut the bullshit with me, you were being an ass. You were being serious so cut the crap. You were trying to be a hard ass who believes he can say whatever he wants. If you were not then this should had been your reply to me not the other one. I just reviewed your comment on Music Makers over Nevermet so no you were not being funny but again in fact were being serious and simply being intolerant. Oh I get it, again hyperbole trying to get your point across by saying they suck and anyone who likes what they have created must be deaf. Oh yes completely exaggerated comments to get what point across ... that they suck and anyone who thinks otherwise is deaf?
You are back pedaling now. So get this hyperbole ... my finger is that much closer to the ban button. |
1) I wouldn't care IN THE SLIGHEST if i was banned
2) Nevermet sucks and the only people who would like them would have to be deaf
3) I'm sure i'm banned now.....and can't say i'm disappointed |
And as I said you were not using hyperbole but being serious. Yeah I am sure you do not care and have to pretend like you are a big man on the way out.
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| It's a good album it has a lot of good songs. |
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I’ve not heard a ‘worst’ album....only ones that have songs that I like less than other ones
***DIO RULES***
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I’ve not heard a ‘worst’ album....only ones that have songs that I like less than other ones
***DIO RULES*** |
Those are called filler songs. To make an album
after having run out of ideas. Even classic albums
have them.
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DevinMacGregor
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| DevinMacGregor wrote: |
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| piracy_of_life wrote: |
| I don't see the point to that post, you just turned a perfectly good topic bad. |
The title of the thread was a question so either this is a debate or him telling us what is. I was simply calling him on his word choice and intolerance to what others may like as they like albums he does not. Questioning people on their sanity as well is a bit much over what album they like over another.
It is one thing to have an opinion of liking one album over another it is quite another for diminishing another person's choices. I prefer the first two albums but I certainly would not call the rest steaming turds nor that anyone was insane for likely any of them over the first two albums.
I do not have a problem with people not liking one album over another but calling it a steaming turd and then saying another is insane for not liking his particular choice is over the top. Plus what the hell does Nevermet have to do with this?
I do not particularly pay attention to his posts but if he prefers I can start reviewing his other 99 posts and looking at all future ones.
This thread can continue but the ball is in his court in how it is to proceed or not proceed. |
i honestly can't believe you'd think i was being SERIOUS with my comments about people's sanity on this fourm. I was merely using a bit of hyperbole to try and get my point across. How could i judge a single person's sanity on this forum without ever having talked to them or met them? I'll say it again: i honestly can't believe that you thought i was SERIOUS.
Anyways, to get back on track....
Strange Highways >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing The Dragon |
First cut the bullshit with me, you were being an ass. You were being serious so cut the crap. You were trying to be a hard ass who believes he can say whatever he wants. If you were not then this should had been your reply to me not the other one. I just reviewed your comment on Music Makers over Nevermet so no you were not being funny but again in fact were being serious and simply being intolerant. Oh I get it, again hyperbole trying to get your point across by saying they suck and anyone who likes what they have created must be deaf. Oh yes completely exaggerated comments to get what point across ... that they suck and anyone who thinks otherwise is deaf?
You are back pedaling now. So get this hyperbole ... my finger is that much closer to the ban button. |
sad to see devin is still allowed to abuse fans. no wonder all the dio fans who used to come here either left or got banned or whatever happened. this place really sucks now.
devin, u say "thinks he can say whatever he wants" concerning geordie as if thats a bad thing. why not, u do?
KTD was great album. still is. |
What a crock of crap. I am not the reason why a lot of fans left or even got banned. That guy was not abused. As a moderator I called him on calling the album a steaming turd and he decided to butt heads. I never demanded he liked the album etc. He decided to open the can of worms further so I looked at his past posts and saw his uncalled for comment over Nevermet. Then he tried to backpedal by saying he was not being serious to which he was since he brought up Nevermet here as well which had nothing to do with anything here.
So yeah this place really sucks because I called ONE person on calling an album a steaming turd and not respecting other Dio fans.
But thank you for alerting me to your IP address. And a note for your objective book, no I cannot say whatever I want since A) I am still here and B) even I edit what I type before hitting send *wink*
If anyone here thinks I am getting personal with them they are invited to PM me. That option has always been available to them.
And any further comments about Georgie or me over this incident will be deleted. The Moderators here are far more lenient than any other board I have been on and if you wish I could simply stop posting about any topic and solely post as a Mod and start cruising all forums looking at posts more closely issuing out warnings to those who are violating current rules. There are many threads and many forums I do not go into.
The KTD topic can continue ...
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DevinMacGregor
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I’ve not heard a ‘worst’ album....only ones that have songs that I like less than other ones
***DIO RULES*** |
Those are called filler songs. To make an album
after having run out of ideas. Even classic albums
have them. |
Is filler an artist term or a fan term? Do they sit around and say hey we have no more ideas so lets make a filler song since we only have 6 tracks that are awesome?
Or do they simply churn out ideas and work on the ones they get further inspiration from. All tracks can be filler songs since they all fill up the slots that would make an album. Some are just more developed or came together better than others.
I would not consider Neon Knights a filler song although it was created last to fill in the last slot of a standard 8 track album.
So is a filler song then considered by any fan any song they like less than the rest? And is it being assumed that all the liked tracks, ie considered good tracks, were created first and not that a really great song was created 8th in the order and last.
Some bands work on far more than 8 tracks and take 8-9 of the best of that to make the final album. The Beatles did 15 some tracks per album and that was not all of their ideas for those albums. Ronnie has said he works roughly on only the amount of tracks on the album so does not have tracks sitting in some "vault" as other artists who later release tracks that never made it on any album.
Just questions Dusty. I do not want you to feel all abused or anything.
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| I listen to KTD a LOT more than Strange Highways |
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Thank GOD i joined the Iron Maiden forum, where they let a lot more things go and i have SUCH a better time. |
When you want to badmouth other band's work I'd appreciate it as a fellow Iron Maiden fan and IMOCer if you didnt bring the band or forum into your arguments as if to validate your (somewhat overblown) opinion.
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Dusthead
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| Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| DevinMacGregor wrote: |
| Dusthead wrote: |
| ZeusJupiter wrote: |
I’ve not heard a ‘worst’ album....only ones that have songs that I like less than other ones
***DIO RULES*** |
Those are called filler songs. To make an album
after having run out of ideas. Even classic albums
have them. |
Is filler an artist term or a fan term? Do they sit around and say hey we have no more ideas so lets make a filler song since we only have 6 tracks that are awesome?
Or do they simply churn out ideas and work on the ones they get further inspiration from. All tracks can be filler songs since they all fill up the slots that would make an album. Some are just more developed or came together better than others.
I would not consider Neon Knights a filler song although it was created last to fill in the last slot of a standard 8 track album.
So is a filler song then considered by any fan any song they like less than the rest? And is it being assumed that all the liked tracks, ie considered good tracks, were created first and not that a really great song was created 8th in the order and last.
Some bands work on far more than 8 tracks and take 8-9 of the best of that to make the final album. The Beatles did 15 some tracks per album and that was not all of their ideas for those albums. Ronnie has said he works roughly on only the amount of tracks on the album so does not have tracks sitting in some "vault" as other artists who later release tracks that never made it on any album.
Just questions Dusty. I do not want you to feel all abused or anything. |
You know Devin. There was no need for that last remark. 
As for the filler comment. What I meant was songs on albums that the listener would skip over. Weak songs ya know. Sure maybe 10% of fans might listen to every song. But most of the time we pick and choose our favs. to create the ultimate playlist from several albums. Sometimes an album has only one good song.
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