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So here is a poll who would you like to see fronting a Rainbow Reunion?
Ronnie James Dio
92%
 92%  [ 23 ]
Graham Bonnet
4%
 4%  [ 1 ]
Joe Lynn Turner
4%
 4%  [ 1 ]
Doogie White
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Total Votes : 25

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject: Joe Lynn Turner Says He Should Front Reunited Rainbow! Reply with quote

JOE LYNN TURNER Says He Should Front Reunited RAINBOW, Not RONNIE JAMES DIO Shocked
Jeb Wright of Classic Rock Revisited recently conducted an interview with legendary hard rock vocalist Joe Lynn Turner (ex-DEEP PURPLE, RAINBOW, YNGWIE MALMSTEEN). A couple of excerpts from the chat follow:

Classic Rock Revisited: Do you think [Ritchie] Blackmore will ever quit doing BLACKMORE'S NIGHT?

Joe: That is the question of the universe. There have been so many rumors about a reunion with different lineups. Ritchie always gets tired eventually. This one is waning. I have heard that he is now hit-and-miss with the band as some gigs are full and some gigs are not full. He is also picking up the electric more and people are always screaming for PURPLE and RAINBOW. I think it is possible that a reunion could happen — that is a political answer but he always gets tired of things and he always is looking for new blood so there is always the chance of something happening.

Classic Rock Revisited: If RAINBOW were to get back together who should be the singer? Ronnie James Dio or you?

Joe: I know it won't be Dio because I talk to Ronnie and he is doing quite well on his own. We were offered to do the three singers of RAINBOW but that would have been a nightmare. Actually, we all get along so that might have been cool but I know Ronnie would never do it. Graham [Bonnet] would do it. I will tell you something funny. One night I was in Madrid with my friend Doogie White and we were absolutely plastered. Doogie goes, "Fuck you, it should be me as the singer if RAINBOW reformed." I was like, "You're going to sing my songs?" I was really digging at him. I said, "What was the name of the RAINBOW album you were on?" I was taking the piss out of him and then three Jack Daniels later were hugging. He thinks he was the unsung hero of RAINBOW. He emails me all the time about the gigs he does with Yngwie Malmsteen. He once told me he had to sing seven shows in a row. I asked him, "How do you sing seven shows in row" and he said, "Nobody gives a shit about the singer in this band." Okay, now I will answer your question directly: It should be me. I will tell you why, Dio had the heavier sort of dungeons and dragons stuff — don't get me wrong, I love the stuff and I am even singing some of his stuff like "Last in Line" and "Rainbow in the Dark" in BIG NOIZE. I am a huge fan of Ronnie James Dio but we [RAINBOW with Joe Lynn Turner] did have the sales. We also had the worldwide notoriety and the commercial success. They had a poll one time about who should be the singer and overwhelmingly it was me — and I need the work [laughter].

Classic Rock Revisited: You are the one guy who had always got along with Ritchie Blackmore. How in hell have you pulled that one off?

Joe: Many, many psychology courses [laughter]. I have an un-reactive mind. I have learned the Buddhist way to respond and not react. If you react to Ritchie then that is what he expects. If you learn to not react to him but instead respond with something that challenges his psyche then he respects that. Ritchie is the kind of guy who likes to push and pull you so he can see what kind of person you really are. It is a power struggle with him. One night we were crawling around on the floor drunk and I told him, "We are not going to last very long because I am afraid of intimacy." Ritchie goes, "And we are getting way too friendly." I just said, "We better enjoy it while we have it." He still says great things about me in interviews and I am really proud that he does that. The only differences we ever had were when we were fighting over what we thought was best for the music. Ritchie wanted everything to be the best it could possibly be. He wanted you to dig into the lyrics and the music and make it the best. When it was not up to snuff, he would just call the guy out on it. When he would say that to me then I would go write another lyric and sing another song better than I did before and he would say, "Now that's it." On "Street of Dreams", Ritchie came in after I sang the vocal — I had a really great moment on that song, obviously. He said, "I can't play the lead. I'm intimidated." I said, "What?" He said, "Your vocal is spot-on." I said, "It is a good vocal and it is just what we believe in with others lives and reincarnation." I broke open two Heinekens and I said, "You go in there. This is our creation; this is our baby." He lit the candles and got in the mood but he rose to the occasion. He came out and said, "Cheers, mate. Thanks for the inspiration." We were in Copenhagen at the time and there was a huge storm. They are at a point of longitude and attitude where there is a lot of huge electrical storms. They had a huge electric rod on top of the building. We were discussing this and there was a loud snap and all the lights went out. We were sitting in the dark. All of the candles came out and then he looked at me and said, "This is a sign." It was pretty eerie. Eventually, the lights came back on and the machines pumped back on and we went back to work. He would say, "Now we are working with other powers — not the lower powers but the higher powers."

Read the entire interview at www.classicrockrevisited.com.

So here is a poll who would you like to see fronting a Rainbow Reunion.

I never saw Rainbow with Dio Crying or Very sad but saw Rainbow with Turner to be really honest if I put them in order of preference it would be to see them with
1.Ronnie James Dio of course would be number 1
2.Graham Bonnet.
3.Joe Lynn Turner
4.Doogie White
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonnet and White participate in one album each i think. I believe that in a reunion case the singer should be either Ronnie or Turner. Of course i voted for Dio, because i like more the songs of his era in Rainbow.

As Turner says, it is very difficult to see Ronnie with Rainbow if we consider the fact that he works with two bands now, from the one side we read interviews saying that Heaven & Hell are writing new staff and on the other side we read about live show of the DIO band in UK...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bonnet may have done only 1 album but Joe Lynn Turner does not even come close to anything like ''Eyes of the World''
The greatest Rainbow song ever after the Dio era of course! Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cant vote on this one, because I think it should be one Festival show with all the singers. Thats the only way it would happen. As much as JLT would like to think it should be him, I only hear one song from rainbow played on the radio, and that is Man on the silver mountain. They may have had sales, but he is not remembered by the masses the way Ronnie is.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are two intirely different Rainbow camps.

Camp one is the Metal rockers that listen to RJD. Or the hard rockers that listened to Deep Purple, Zeppelin, etc.

Camp two is the easy rock that listen to bands like Foreigner, Phil Collins etc. They do not listen to metal or even like it.

So that poll he's talking about is tainted to one side or the other depending on which camp U place that poll. Im talking about the poll that is mentioned in the interview, not HM's poll.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are two intirely different Rainbow camps.

Camp one is the Metal rockers that listen to RJD. Or the hard rockers that listened to Deep Purple, Zeppelin, etc.

Camp two is the easy rock that listen to bands like Foreigner, Phil Collins etc. They do not listen to metal or even like it.

So that poll he's talking about is tainted to one side or the other depending on which camp U place that poll. Im talking about the poll that is mentioned in the interview, not HM's poll.


Nick would you say that fans or camps of bands like Dio and Deep Purple are more open minded to different genres of music than say fans that mostly like the softer side of music.

Of course I like lots of different kinds of metal...but I also have stuff like Journey,Foreigner,Kansas and Styx in my collection.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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really long nick name wrote:
There are two intirely different Rainbow camps.

Camp one is the Metal rockers that listen to RJD. Or the hard rockers that listened to Deep Purple, Zeppelin, etc.

Camp two is the easy rock that listen to bands like Foreigner, Phil Collins etc. They do not listen to metal or even like it.

So that poll he's talking about is tainted to one side or the other depending on which camp U place that poll. Im talking about the poll that is mentioned in the interview, not HM's poll.


Nick would you say that fans or camps of bands like Dio and Deep Purple are more open minded to different genres of music than say fans that mostly like the softer side of music.



Of course I like lots of different kinds of metal...but I also have stuff like Journey,Foreigner,Kansas and Styx in my collection.


U probably know this already but I should mentioned that Ritchie Blackmore had the intention of moving Rainbow from hard-rock into another genre of more popish rock after RJD left. He put a arc in the Rainbow sort of speak. Why he would do this while metal is on the rise, is beyond me. First off when Rainbow formed, they were up against Disco that was hugely popular from mid to late 70s.
Then to go against the coming 80s metal trend which is what original Rainbow's direction it pointed to but no Ritchie put Rainbow in the dark sort of speak.

Maybe the line between fans of metal and fans of rock is not as rigidly defined as I put it but I still believe there are two camps of Rainbow fans. Isn't he doing classical music now or something pagen?

I define hard-rock of late 60s/early 70s as the predecessor to metal.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick...I got into Rainbow via Deep Purple myself,even when Ronnie left Rainbow...I still kept on buying there music but some of the records at the time...left me wondering what the hell was going on...I remember ''Straight Between the Eyes'' being the hardest Rainbow cd for me to like...3 times...I bought it and gave it away..,I just could not get into it Confused
You could be right about being 2 sorts of fans of Rainbow...I know there is 2 sort of fans of Whitesnake...I like everything from Whitesnake but when they get to North America...I stopped liking them as much.

Don't they call Blackmore's music now ''Renaissance-inspired folk rock'' Confused Laughing Laughing

I may laugh but I have a few cds and dvds Embarassed


edit...oops it was ''Bent out of Shape'' and not Straight Between the Eyes...that I could not get into Embarassed Embarassed


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holymagica wrote:
... would you say that fans or camps of bands like Dio and Deep Purple are more open minded to different genres of music than say fans that mostly like the softer side of music.

Of course I like lots of different kinds of metal...but I also have stuff like Journey,Foreigner,Kansas and Styx in my collection.


I would definitely say that and that simply comes from experience of being in places where we were allowed to play music in the background and regardless of the so called hardcore metal heads who listen to nothing but that.

I see that now with my iPod. I do not want to be stuck with fucking headphones on or those damn ear buds that stretch my ear out. I have little speakers that I hook my iPod to when at work and I can feel the tension in the others. The damn thing is so low as well and I am not even playing anything that is really heavy. It is the more commercial stuff but they can't even handle that. All of a sudden on their PCs come up their music to which I will sit there and listen to for hours and not say a damn word because it is what they like etc.

And I work great with these guys as well but this new guy listens to pop orientated music primarily. He was flipping through something online and hit an old AC/DC song and goes that is what you like. Well, ok but that wasn't even heavy and that is what he looked at it like. Like that track was really heavy.

So yes I do believe that people who listen to the lighter more pop orientated music have a hard time listening to the harder stuff. I cannot say that all who listen to the harder stuff primarily are all open minded but I for one listen to Celtic, Renaissance and classical. I like Foreigner and hear juke box hero in my head from time to time. I like Journey as well who were extremely popular when I was in High School. I like Marston Smith who is a Cellist. Check him out if that instrument doesn't creep you out. I saw him at the LA Fair years back playing his electric Cello and I was wow.

But no matter where I have worked to where we can listen to music I have been the solitary metal head who cannot listen to that but listen to what everyone else likes instead. I think people still harbor stereotypes against it and some may feel it is music of the young and therefore immature of anyone who listens to it as they get older.

This guy who I had to reimage his box for him has a password with Nirvana in it. I really do not care for the band but I make small talk all the time with people because I am the face of my company and I win the hearts and minds of the people. I asked oh you a fan? He said well a long time ago and then went on to say he listens to Bryan Adams and someone else I never heard of. Now he could had been lying as well and nirvana was a religious reference unless Bryan has a song with nirvana in it. But either way the look on his face was odd. It reminded me of this guy who served with me in the Army who either had just turned 27 or 28 and was heading home to get married. He handed me this shoe box with a dozen or so cassettes in it and said he did not need that any more. I had most of the cassettes already and some were of bands I had never listened to but I thought why in the hell did he stop listening to this? What, does she castrate you too? I mean why can't he keep listening to Iron Maiden? All he said was he was ready to settle down.

But to some this genre of music may be seen as rebellious and when you get older you are supposed to be ready to settle down and stop your rebellious ways. I think that line of thought is crap. I can do both. What did Charlie say at the NRA? From my dead cold hands will you pry this out. Who here does not want to be in the Book of Heavy Metal!!

I find myself moving so much faster and getting so much more done when it is on in the background as well. Bobby has to smoke a dead plant well I have metal. I am in the zone.
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Devin..I have loads of non metal friends,who only listen to stuff in the charts and only buy a cd if its top 10 Confused I think thats why I hang out in music forums so much becoz my friends are not really into the music I like,I have a couple of mates who just like the classic rock stuff,I get bored after a while listening to the old stuff,I can only take them in small doses,I am looked a upon as some sort of Anti-christ from these lovers of ''pop'' and chart music,the cds I do buy in the charts come from the ...Classical music charts,artists like Katherine Jenkins,Sarah Brightman and Natasha Marsh this gets a even worse reaction from some of my friends,its like they have just got toothache in their head from the words ''Opera'' Confused
I believe the music divide between the fans of non metal and metalheads is growing,the metalhead will always buy more cds,than the non metal fan,simply becoz we have a much bigger selection to choose from,they only have a top 40,what would it be like trying to buy Metal music from a small selection like the Top 40 .
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Devin..I have loads of non metal friends,who only listen to stuff in the charts and only buy a cd if its top 10 Confused I think thats why I hang out in music forums so much becoz my friends are not really into the music I like,I have a couple of mates who just like the classic rock stuff,I get bored after a while listening to the old stuff,I can only take them in small doses,I am looked a upon as some sort of Anti-christ from these lovers of ''pop'' and chart music,the cds I do buy in the charts come from the ...Classical music charts,artists like Katherine Jenkins,Sarah Brightman and Natasha Marsh this gets a even worse reaction from some of my friends,its like they have just got toothache in their head from the words ''Opera'' Confused
I believe the music divide between the fans of non metal and metalheads is growing,the metalhead will always buy more cds,than the non metal fan,simply becoz we have a much bigger selection to choose from,they only have a top 40,what would it be like trying to buy Metal music from a small selection like the Top 40 .


Yeah I talked about that when this board first opened in that we have people who will buy entire albums and then those who only buy singles. The former tend to be die hard fans and loyal to many different groups etc but the singles people are just getting what is at the top of the chart. They only know the band by what is released as a single. These fans I call casual fans and are flash in the pan.

The recording industry cut itself in the foot when it stopped vinyl albums and vinyl singles, ie 78s and 33s or whatever the numbers were. They kept the full albums and for a short time they had cassette singles but when CDs came out what we had were full albums. I think this was shooting themselves in the foot as those casual fans could not just buy the singles they wanted and even though a particular song was released as a single the casual fan had no way of buying just that.

This led the way to internet downloading. The die hard fans can scoff at the casual fan but the casual fan bought heavily into metal in the 80s and helped its success. With the loss of casual fans there just is not enough die hard fans in the US to convince record companies to put money into metal. And it did not help much as many metal fans began to sub genre metal and start this true Scotsman BS. This meant that the more pop sounding bands they abandoned but they were as well had a wider audience appeal and by abandoning them for a true Scotsman belief was just really shooting themselves in the foot as those bands died off. Record companies then just see the genre as largely dead here. Yeah I know it is not really dead but you have to convince these suits there is money to be made.

I was hoping that the big record companies would open up their own stores and let all of their catalogs be available for purchase as iTunes does and RealPlayer. It would be interesting to see how much old catalog would sell versus the newer catalog and I am talking of 99 cents or whatever per track. If they opened up 80s music for sale and made it more available by the method above I would be curious to see how much sales they can generate.

But by shelving this content and it being hard to find in stores it will lay hidden from future generations.

But yeah too many friends who are just top 40s but older friends who for some reason when they got married, got that minivan, and stopped listening to the stuff. Maybe we should boycott minivans.

And as for any Rainbow reunion I lost any excitement over it years ago. If it happens it happens. I just do not see Ronnie doing that right now.
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totally agree with the magic man . being a metal fan , i tend to buy
alot of disc's unheard !! because i HATE what's played on the radio .
sure i like most of the classic rock stuff but I AM SO SICK OF HEARING THE SAME 20 OR 30 SONGS OVER AND OVER !!! plus magic's comment
of metal fan's buying stuff other than metal . i have bill withers to little river band to kc & the sunshine band to SAGA to ASIA . though i won't go near country or hip hop stuff !! don't know if it's a getting older thing or what . but i can't listen to ANYTHING on the radio anymore for more than 10 or 15 min. tops !! now i rather hear talk radio than top 40 or classic rock stuff !! they have COMPLETLY DESTROYED radio !!
i used to love hearing cuts off records that weren't singles !!
now we're force fed pure shit !! it's a damn shame !! Shocked
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t5RageForOrder wrote:
totally agree with the magic man . being a metal fan , i tend to buy
alot of disc's unheard !! because i HATE what's played on the radio .
sure i like most of the classic rock stuff but I AM SO SICK OF HEARING THE SAME 20 OR 30 SONGS OVER AND OVER !!! plus magic's comment
of metal fan's buying stuff other than metal . i have bill withers to little river band to kc & the sunshine band to SAGA to ASIA . though i won't go near country or hip hop stuff !! don't know if it's a getting older thing or what . but i can't listen to ANYTHING on the radio anymore for more than 10 or 15 min. tops !! now i rather hear talk radio than top 40 or classic rock stuff !! they have COMPLETELY DESTROYED radio !!
i used to love hearing cuts off records that weren't singles !!
now we're force fed pure shit !! it's a damn shame !! Shocked


There was a station I used to listen when I was driving ... it was called the Stiffy, which was Stu, Tiffany, and Jimbo. They had this mandatory Metallica which was a rip off copy of what KNAC did when it was an actual non internet radio station but when KNAC did it it played metal overall and mandatory Metallica was to get the band more exposure. This guy to me just seemed like a poser. How about Mandatory Metal jackass ... let other bands get exposure. It was like he never listened to metal and because he knew of Metallica that made it hard so he was metal or something.

So yeah my prime reason to listen to radio because just to listen to talk radio since music radio has primarily be ruined with the same tracks being repeated almost every hour.

I miss the days of KMET when they would play tracks off a newly released album all throughout a show. It was not just the top 10 or top 40 single releases.
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I am huge fan of digital radio...and there is some good stations in the UK ,like...Arrow,Classic Rock and Kerrang but I get so bored..I am end up listening to Talksport on my radio.
I have noticed as well the playlists on these stations is not very good,they never play Iron Maiden,You may get a track like ''Highway to Hell''-AC/DC playing and straight after it you get Simple Minds''Alive and Kicking'' Confused And I hate this genre they are creating on the radio called ''Country Rock'' which is the likes of The Eagles and Lynyrd Skynyrd...this has always been American Classic Rock when did it become country Confused
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I am huge fan of digital radio...and there is some good stations in the UK ,like...Arrow,Classic Rock and Kerrang but I get so bored..I am end up listening to Talksport on my radio.
I have noticed as well the playlists on these stations is not very good,they never play Iron Maiden,You may get a track like ''Highway to Hell''-AC/DC playing and straight after it you get Simple Minds''Alive and Kicking'' Confused And I hate this genre they are creating on the radio called ''Country Rock'' which is the likes of The Eagles and Lynyrd Skynyrd...this has always been American Classic Rock when did it become country Confused


This was awhile ago but it was either Charter Cable or when I first got Direct TV. I was flipping though the channels and well MTV just doesn't have MTV and MTV2, they have other channels that are specific to certain genres. So here I am looking at this metal one. I am seeing videos I have not see played for 20 years. I enjoy the channel for a few days and then BAM it is gone. In its place ... country rock. WTF!
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