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Beast_Regards
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 Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:50 am Post subject: WHATS THE DEAL WITH LIVE RAINBOW ALBUMS?! *DIO ONLY* |
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Can anyone help me?
I'm a major collector but I have no idea on whats official (officially released by the band) and whats not when it comes to live Rainbow albums...
There seems to be loads...
ALSO
Can anyone explain why all the setlists are the same AND so short?
for example the tracklists all seem to be...
Kill The King
Stargazer
Man On The Silver Mountain
Still I'm Sad
Mistreated
Long Live Rock N Roll
Do You Close Your Eyes?
Catch The Rainbow
Sixteenth Century Greensleeves
and that's IT!?
Obviously they have long improvisation instrumental sections within the songs *thanks Ritchie  *
but did the band not ever play/release other songs?
in comparrison to how many live albums there SEEMS to be kicking about with only these songs on them...IF that
Can anyone help me out with what's official? and what Dio tracks have officially been released live
Cheers K-Man |
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Magica Dragon
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:52 am Post subject: |
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Rising tour setlist:
Kill The King
Mistreated
Sixteenth Century Greensleeves
Cath The Rainbow
Man On The Silver Montain
Stargazer
A Light In The Black (Dropped early on in tour)
Still I'm Sad
Do You Close Your Eyes (Replaced A Light In The Black)
Long Live Rock N' Roll / On Stage tour setlist:
Kill The King
Mistreated
Sixteenth Century Greensleeves
Cath The Rainbow
L.A. Connection (Short intro; played during early '78, soon dropped)
Long Live Rock N' Roll
Man On The Silver Mountain
Still I'm Sad
Do You Close Your Eyes
Official Dio era live releases:
On Stage
Finyl Vinyl (Dio appears on MOTSM and LLRNR)
Live In Germany '76 / Live In Europe
Live In Munich '77
Live in Dusseldorf '76
Live in Cologne '76
(Another live show: Nuremburg '76 is reportedly in the works)
A Light In The Black and L.A. Connection have never been officially released and I'm not sure if the latter even exists on a bootleg.
The setlist for the respective tour never changed apart from the two exceptions already noted and these are the only tracks ever played live by the band (excluding anything played on the original Rotchie Blackmore's Rainbow tour; if there was one)The instrumental sections would change nightly which is what is appealing about the releases rather than the songs themselves. They were a heavy 'jam' band so that's why.
Hope that clears things up for you 
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stargazer81
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| i have rainbow on stage and live in germany and they are two of the best live albums of all time.... |
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Beast_Regards
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| Magica Dragon wrote: |
Rising tour setlist:
Kill The King
Mistreated
Sixteenth Century Greensleeves
Cath The Rainbow
Man On The Silver Montain
Stargazer
A Light In The Black (Dropped early on in tour)
Still I'm Sad
Do You Close Your Eyes (Replaced A Light In The Black)
Long Live Rock N' Roll / On Stage tour setlist:
Kill The King
Mistreated
Sixteenth Century Greensleeves
Cath The Rainbow
L.A. Connection (Short intro; played during early '78, soon dropped)
Long Live Rock N' Roll
Man On The Silver Mountain
Still I'm Sad
Do You Close Your Eyes
Official Dio era live releases:
On Stage
Finyl Vinyl (Dio appears on MOTSM and LLRNR)
Live In Germany '76
Live In Munich '77
Live in Dusseldorf '76
Live in Cologne '76
(Another live show: Nuremburg '76 is reportedly in the works)
A Light In The Black and L.A. Connection have never been officially released and I'm not sure if the latter even exists on a bootleg.
The setlist for the respective tour never changed apart from the two exceptions already noted and these are the only tracks ever played live by the band (excluding anything played on the original Rotchie Blackmore's Rainbow tour; if there was one)The instrumental sections would change nightly which is what is appealing about the releases rather than the songs themselves. They were a heavy 'jam' band so that's why.
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Excellent it really does...thanks useful reply
pity though
disappointing actually
out of about 30 songs they only played 8 lol
pretty sad especially since we'll NEVER get to hear these songs live elsewhere
and a reunion seems unlikely
oh well
never say never
cheers! |
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Magica Dragon
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, there were so many classic songs they never played and it was a real shame. But it's great that Dio's been playing things like Gates Of Babylon, Temple Of The King and Tarot Woman recently. The next best thing to a reunion I guess. I'd love to see Ritchie and Ronnie play Rising in its entirety *drools*, but that's never gonna happen.
Anyway glad I could help |
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Magica Dragon
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| And I forgot to mention in the my first post about Live In Europe. It's another official release but it's exactly the same as Live In Germany '76 which is a compilation of Dusseldorf, Nuremburg and Cologne. |
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Beast_Regards
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| Magica Dragon wrote: |
Yeah, there were so many classic songs they never played and it was a real shame. But it's great that Dio's been playing things like Gates Of Babylon, Temple Of The King and Tarot Woman recently. The next best thing to a reunion I guess. I'd love to see Ritchie and Ronnie play Rising in its entirety *drools*, but that's never gonna happen.
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wow hes been playing temple of the king?
what tour was that?
05 was 'holy diver live' tour
he didnt play it in the UK thats for sure
04 i knew he was playin Stargazer but Ive never heard anything about temple of the king
thats cool!
pity holy diver live was such an awful recording of ronnie:( |
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Magica Dragon
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I loved Holy Diver Live but Ronnie's voice is a little weak. Still a cut above most singers.
He performed the first verse of Temple Of The King followed by Kill The King on the latter dates of his tour last year. Here's a proffesional vid from New Year's Eve in Kavarna:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKu7-LVWwyw
Really cool performance, wish I had the whole concert, he played I and All The Fools Sailed Away too. |
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GEORDIE
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| Personally, i can't STAND the jam sessions on the live albums. SOOOOO boring and tedious, not to mention a complete waste of time . Think of all the songs they could've played in place of Ritchie's self gratifying egotistical jam sessions. More proof that he only thinks of himself, no matter what band he's been apart of. |
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Magica Dragon
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| I love the jam sessions but I get what you mean about songs that could've taken their place like Tarot Woman and Gates Of Babylon. I just guess I love sef-indulgent stuff and it's really cool to hear something different from the albums. |
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some jam sessions can be great such as the one(s) on Deep Purple's "made in Japan"
"Strange Kind of Woman" owns for that, I can listent o that live version over and over.
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| GEORDIE wrote: |
| Personally, i can't STAND the jam sessions on the live albums. SOOOOO boring and tedious, not to mention a complete waste of time . Think of all the songs they could've played in place of Ritchie's self gratifying egotistical jam sessions. More proof that he only thinks of himself, no matter what band he's been apart of. |
Its Ritchie's band he can do what he likes.
Rainbow in th early days was more about Ritchie & Cozy on stage not so much Dio.
I love all the Jamming so its not a Complete Waste Of Time
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| GEORDIE wrote: |
| Personally, i can't STAND the jam sessions on the live albums. SOOOOO boring and tedious, not to mention a complete waste of time . Think of all the songs they could've played in place of Ritchie's self gratifying egotistical jam sessions. More proof that he only thinks of himself, no matter what band he's been apart of. |
I agree completely
I'm not one for live jam improv, in any band...
their songs impress me thats why im there I dont want an hour long session where they muck about for an hour... |
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| screaming_4_priest wrote: |
| GEORDIE wrote: |
| Personally, i can't STAND the jam sessions on the live albums. SOOOOO boring and tedious, not to mention a complete waste of time . Think of all the songs they could've played in place of Ritchie's self gratifying egotistical jam sessions. More proof that he only thinks of himself, no matter what band he's been apart of. |
Its Ritchie's band he can do what he likes.
Rainbow in th early days was more about Ritchie & Cozy on stage not so much Dio.
I love all the Jamming so its not a Complete Waste Of Time |
thats just his opinion give him a break, obviously its ritchie's band he'd just rather hear the songs; instead of him playing 3 notes in the space of an hour and letting them ring out into orbit...
it's ritchie's fault the band only played the same 8 songs over 3 years...with 3 hours improv sessions in between  
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screaming_4_priest
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| Beast_Regards wrote: |
| screaming_4_priest wrote: |
| GEORDIE wrote: |
| Personally, i can't STAND the jam sessions on the live albums. SOOOOO boring and tedious, not to mention a complete waste of time . Think of all the songs they could've played in place of Ritchie's self gratifying egotistical jam sessions. More proof that he only thinks of himself, no matter what band he's been apart of. |
Its Ritchie's band he can do what he likes.
Rainbow in th early days was more about Ritchie & Cozy on stage not so much Dio.
I love all the Jamming so its not a Complete Waste Of Time |
thats just his opinion give him a break, obviously its ritchie's band he'd just rather hear the songs; instead of him playing 3 notes in the space of an hour and letting them ring out into orbit...
it's ritchie's fault the band only played the same 8 songs over 3 years...with 3 hours improv sessions in between
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Good Ritchie is the best.
I dont understand what yoy mean 3 notes in the space of an hour why would he do that??????????
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