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alitivity Holy Diver

Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 1945 Location: Cleveland Ohio
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: |
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I love Thin Lizzy and would love to see them live again sometime (saw them opening up for Journey and Queen back in the days) but it's really hard to imagine them without Phil. I guess it'd be a glorified tribute band at best. Also, I think Thin Lizzy without at least one black person singing would be a real crime (now don't get on me about how it doesn't make any difference what race a person is bullshit. What a bunch of PC crap.)
"Any girls out there with a bit of Irish in them? (crowd screams) Any girls out there who'd like a little bit more Irish in them?" - Phil Lynot. |
D-man....I am not having a go...but when I listen to Thin Lizzy...his race does not even register with me...someone's race is not gonna be the deciding factor if I buy a cd.
Maybe I am getting you wrong here.
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There is a black guy singing for Alice In Chains now, and it doesnt bother me as long as he does the songs justice. The same goes for Thin Lizzy. I would just want to close my eyes and imagine it was Phil. Unless of course they offered me the gig (I'm available) Then I would keep my eyes open. Wouldnt want to fall off the stage _________________ Check out Al Diamond Phillips/Nevermet on the web
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Rhinosaur

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 455
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree...race doesn't matter. But I also can't get into the "sans Phil" Thin Lizzy because those were HIS songs. Same with Alice In Chains... Layne Staley's work was so very autobiographical that I can't imagine anyone else singing his songs. |
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D-Man

Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 702 Location: Holland
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:54 am Post subject: |
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I think you are focusing on 10 percent of what I said and ignoriing the other 90%, which is what usually happens on these boards. Phil Lynot, along with Jimi Hendrix and many others, is one of the black men who helped build rock and roll into what it is today. There is a bizarre attempt to turn rock and rock, and especially metal, into a white music form, but bands like Bad Brains, Living Colour and many others keep proving that is not the case. They bring their own flavor and sensibility to rock and roll, and prove it isn't about being white (aren't there about a million heavy metal bands with the word "white" in their title? Ever wonder why that is?) Hard rock, and through that metal, was invented by a black man - Jimi Hendrix, and people like Phil Lynot kept that spirit alive.
This is not some statement about who's better or whatever, so don't even try that. This is a statement about the history of rock and roll. _________________ Bass guitarists hold it all together. |
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alitivity Holy Diver

Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 1945 Location: Cleveland Ohio
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: |
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I think you are focusing on 10 percent of what I said and ignoriing the other 90%, which is what usually happens on these boards. Phil Lynot, along with Jimi Hendrix and many others, is one of the black men who helped build rock and roll into what it is today. There is a bizarre attempt to turn rock and rock, and especially metal, into a white music form, but bands like Bad Brains, Living Colour and many others keep proving that is not the case. They bring their own flavor and sensibility to rock and roll, and prove it isn't about being white (aren't there about a million heavy metal bands with the word "white" in their title? Ever wonder why that is?) Hard rock, and through that metal, was invented by a black man - Jimi Hendrix, and people like Phil Lynot kept that spirit alive.
This is not some statement about who's better or whatever, so don't even try that. This is a statement about the history of rock and roll. |
Have to disagree about Hendix, It was the Kinks who first added Distortion by cutting their speakers with razor blades inventing the original sound that would be Hard Rock. Hendix had his part in defining it but no more so than Pete townsend and others of the era. _________________ Check out Al Diamond Phillips/Nevermet on the web
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Holymagica Guest
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Jimi Hendrix did not invent Heavy Metal
alitivity...is right with what he is saying...about the Kinks.
Their innovation on "You Really Got Me" was this: they were the first to use a heavy fuzz riff guitar, which gave metal its most characteristic sound. Under the auspices of producer Shel Talmy, Page recorded The Kinks "You Really Got Me" (1964) (although there is a dispute on whether Page or Dave Davies played lead])
Folks should also remember Link Wray, He´s one of the most influential artist ever in heavy rock music even though he didn´t sell too many albums. Pete Townshend has said “He’s the king, if it wasn’t for Rumble, I’d have never picked up the guitar”.
Punk rock, grunge, garage, heavy metal and “rock guitar” in general…they can all trace their roots to Link Wray.
Jimi who
Btw....What the hell has race got to do with music...you keep bring this up....NO ONE has ever mentioned skin colour before  |
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D-Man

Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 702 Location: Holland
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Didn't know about the Kinds and the razor blades, and this may be one of the first true rock songs on the radio, but I think hard rock music can pretty much be divided up as what was before Hendrix and what came after. Funny, I thought we'd end up arguing about Clapton, not Ray Davies! Hendrix just took a lot of what was already there, like the Beatles to Buddy Guy, and synthesized it into something totally new. It went way beyond using a guitar effect. I think the only people you can say the same about are Elvis Presley, the Beatles, the Ramones, and that's about it.
Back to the original topic, Thin Lizzy were a hell of a good band and I don't think there will be anybody like them around soon. _________________ Bass guitarists hold it all together. |
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 3:53 am Post subject: |
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Moonloop is right "Live & Dangerous" is a must have for any fan of Thin Lizzy....
I only saw Phil playing with John Sykes & Scot Gorham... Thunder and Lightning Tour in 1983!
Thats when Thin Lizzy experimental into some Heavy Metal songs ...I know some of the die hard fans don't regard ''Thunder and Lightning'' with the same affection as the other greats...but I love the cd,simply becoz I got see Thin Lizzy perform Thunder and Lightning,Baby Please Don't Go, This Is The One, The Holy War,The Sun Goes Down and Cold Sweat.
Its a great cd...not one song I don't like...and its was the last studio cd from them.
Any fans of the song....''Angel of Death''
Its on ''Renegade '' |
I agree , Thunder and Lightning is a great album, Black Rose is also one of my favourite Thin Lizzy album
Angel Of Death, oh yeah, like it, love the intro.... |
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D-Man

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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Awesome clips! _________________ Bass guitarists hold it all together. |
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Stained Class
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:39 am Post subject: |
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Couldn't agree more Asle_dale on Thunder and Lightning and Black Rose. I must admit I love the Life/Live album especially for these tracks, getting to hear alot of the excellent post-jailbreak songs live.
Also have to echo D-Mans thanks - these are excellent clips! |
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D-Man

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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:58 am Post subject: |
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I love the "classic" lineup, but there are some live tracks out there with Gary Moore that are just ass kicking!!!!
Luckily I saw both!!!! _________________ Bass guitarists hold it all together.
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Dark Nomad
Joined: 26 Sep 2004 Posts: 48 Location: London, England
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:22 am Post subject: |
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Thin Lizzy are brilliant. The best Irish band ever. _________________ Clutching to monsters in shadows, 'cos monsters always know....It's better in the dark! |
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Holymagica Guest
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:46 am Post subject: |
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According to a posting on the Thin Lizzy – A Rock Legend web site, THIN LIZZY's "Live and Dangerous at the Rainbow" is being reissued as a "deluxe edition) by Mercury/Universal on October 15 in Europe. The track listing is as follows:
01. Intro/Rosalie
02. The Boys Are Back in Town
03. Emerald
04. Dancing In The Moonlight
05. Massacre
06. Still In Love With You
07. Don't Believe A Word
08. Are You Ready
09. Sha La La
10. Baby Drives Me Crazy
11. Me And The Boys…
Bonus Material:
"Sight & Sound in Concert" – January 26, 1983 (BBC TX 5/2/83) - 45 minutes:
01. Jailbreak
02. This Is The One
03. Cold Sweat
04. The Sun Goes Down
05. Holy War
06. The Boys Are Back In Town
07. Rosalie
08. Baby Please Don't Go
"Top of the Pops" Performances - 15 minutes:
01. Whiskey In The Jar
02. Jailbreak
03. Dancing In The Moonlight
04. Waiting For An Alibi
05. Don't Believe A Word
+ Interviews with Scott Gorham, Brian Robertson and Brian Downey - 25 minutes
Bonus CD:
Live Derby 1975:
01. Fighting My Way Back
02. Wild One
03. Still In Love With You
04. Suicide
05. Sha La La
06. Baby Drives Me Crazy
07. Me And The Boys…
08. Cowboy Song (Derby Blues)
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Must buy for me! |
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ManOnTheSilverMountain_DP

Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 1419 Location: Rome, Italy
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:43 am Post subject: |
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WOW! That's an awesome news, Gary! Thank you so much for posting this kind of news! _________________ THEY CAN'T STOP US, LET 'EM TRY, FOR HEAVY METAL WE WILL DIE!
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jaymze
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:58 am Post subject: |
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Can't wait for the gig in The Academy, Glasgow.
I have been a fan of Queensryche for about 15 years and am well excited about finally getting to see them live after seeing many bootlegs over the years. I hope they mix up the set list and have a good career representation of songs -instead of just playing O:M I and II.
As for Lizzy.....well I have seen them in The Academy in 06 and they were great. What impressed me was the fact that the first 5 rows were filled with young people, all singing along from the first song. The music lives on.
I will get to see them again in Killarney (Ireland) as my brother has bought me a ticket for my Xmas present. Two great live shows in 3 weeks from Lizzy. To quote Kate Bush "December will be magic again..." |
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