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DevinMacGregor
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 Crazy! And Alice used a drm machine on Dada - and it's one of the best albums he ever made! Other drum machines of note include (Arthur Brown's)Kingdom Come on Journey
I also like King Diamond - but I only have Abigail so far. I'm thinking about getting some Mercyful fate - I hear it's quite different sounding..? |
I personally think Mercyful Fate is better than KD's solo stuff. At least when they had the original guitar players. I think MF is just another KD solo project for the most part now. It at least rocks through "Time" |
Well yeah MF is just a KD side project since he is the lead singer. Can't imagine Mercyful Fate without him.
But MF and KD albums are just different animals. I don't think one of the MF albums is a conceptual piece and only what, Fatal Portrait, is not a conceptual piece in its entirety for KD?
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| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Crazy! And Alice used a drm machine on Dada - and it's one of the best albums he ever made! Other drum machines of note include (Arthur Brown's)Kingdom Come on Journey
I also like King Diamond - but I only have Abigail so far. I'm thinking about getting some Mercyful fate - I hear it's quite different sounding..? |
I personally think Mercyful Fate is better than KD's solo stuff. At least when they had the original guitar players. I think MF is just another KD solo project for the most part now. It at least rocks through "Time" |
Well yeah MF is just a KD side project since he is the lead singer. Can't imagine Mercyful Fate without him.
But MF and KD albums are just different animals. I don't think one of the MF albums is a conceptual piece and only what, Fatal Portrait, is not a conceptual piece in its entirety for KD? |
Of course you couldn't have MF without KD. That would be absurd. I was just talking about now that MIchael Denner is gone. But I guess since Hank Shermann is still there he can still make MF different than KD. I thought that I heard that Hank had left the band also and if that was the case, the music would probably just be another KD album. And as much as I like KD, Mercyful Fate was always better in my opinion.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:20 pm Post subject: hello |
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| Can't stand the guy. I think he should be burned like witch in Salem. |
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King Bayman
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| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: hello |
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| Can't stand the guy. I think he should be burned like witch in Salem. |
I know he's not everyone's cup of tea. So I guess will have to agree to disagree and respect each other's views. No matter how wrong yours may be.
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DevinMacGregor
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| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| King Bayman wrote: |
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| King Bayman wrote: |
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Crazy! And Alice used a drm machine on Dada - and it's one of the best albums he ever made! Other drum machines of note include (Arthur Brown's)Kingdom Come on Journey
I also like King Diamond - but I only have Abigail so far. I'm thinking about getting some Mercyful fate - I hear it's quite different sounding..? |
I personally think Mercyful Fate is better than KD's solo stuff. At least when they had the original guitar players. I think MF is just another KD solo project for the most part now. It at least rocks through "Time" |
Well yeah MF is just a KD side project since he is the lead singer. Can't imagine Mercyful Fate without him.
But MF and KD albums are just different animals. I don't think one of the MF albums is a conceptual piece and only what, Fatal Portrait, is not a conceptual piece in its entirety for KD? |
Of course you couldn't have MF without KD. That would be absurd. I was just talking about now that MIchael Denner is gone. But I guess since Hank Shermann is still there he can still make MF different than KD. I thought that I heard that Hank had left the band also and if that was the case, the music would probably just be another KD album. And as much as I like KD, Mercyful Fate was always better in my opinion. |
Yeah it would be absurd but Hank did have his project called Fate. I have never heard anything done by them. Maybe that would be MF without the King. I read on their history that Hank left originally due to wanting to sound more pop metal than heavier sound.
The next album is supposed to be a KD album. And yeah I liked MF better music wise than KD material.
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DevinMacGregor
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| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: hello |
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| Can't stand the guy. I think he should be burned like witch in Salem. |
That is cool. Some people have poor circulation in their legs and have to sit down. Some times people wait for hours in line and well have to sit down once they get inside. It is ok if you cannot stand when the band comes on.
Didn't they hang the so called witches at Salem. I do not recall them actually burning them.
But aye if this not your cup of tea so be it. We will not attack your person for having a different opinion and say you are full of shit or your ears are full of shit etc. There is plenty of metal for you to find something you like.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:15 am Post subject: Re: hello |
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| We will not attack your person for having a different opinion and say you are full of shit or your ears are full of shit etc. |
Unless Bobby shows up. 
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DevinMacGregor
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: hello |
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| We will not attack your person for having a different opinion and say you are full of shit or your ears are full of shit etc. |
Unless Bobby shows up. |
The odds might be good that since he does not like black metal that he would not like the content of King Diamond and/or Mercyful Fate tracks. So good odds he will not defend them. His loss really but he should really give them a try and have an informed opinion.
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...I've never been all that impressed with King D's vocals...but I certainly liked the band Mercyful Fate...  ...& let's get this straight devin...I call'em like I hear them...I've been playing Guitar for 24 yrs...so I have a pretty good Idea of what has subtance to it and what does NOT...(ie,Most Death Metal)...Also...when using Ronnie's music as a reference point for comparison...not alot measures up... ...the reason I refered to another members statement as Crap...because at the time, IT WAS!...that person Admitted to not listening to the music being critiqued since the fuckin early 80's! ...& I did not throw the first stone either in response to the ridiculous comment that Blackie's music is "crap"...you know better than this also!...  |
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DevinMacGregor
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| ...I've never been all that impressed with King D's vocals...but I certainly liked the band Mercyful Fate... ...& let's get this straight devin...I call'em like I hear them...I've been playing Guitar for 24 yrs...so I have a pretty good Idea of what has subtance to it and what does NOT...(ie,Most Death Metal)...Also...when using Ronnie's music as a reference point for comparison...not alot measures up... ...the reason I refered to another members statement as Crap...because at the time, IT WAS!...that person Admitted to not listening to the music being critiqued since the fuckin early 80's! ...& I did not throw the first stone either in response to the ridiculous comment that Blackie's music is "crap"...you know better than this also!... |
LOL, Bobby calling them like you hear them does not denote right. You call them like you think they are and how you think they should be and nothing more. It is the world according to Bobby.
Bobby rating a cucumber to a string bean is laughable. So 24 years of playing guitar means nothing. It is just your hyperinflated ego. Ronnie is not the end all of metal no matter how much his fans want to say he is the center and all else pales. So when you FINALLY do something, playing cover tunes does not cut it. We want originality. We want a piece YOU have arranged etc. A piece YOU have coined, etc etc etc. Otherwise big deal. There are lots of 24 year guitar players out there who can mimic.
I love this stance of yours, this so called "white Knight" stance. So throwing a stone at Rainbow Lightening was justified? I saw no justification other than you may feel you can kick his ass and he would be more or less timid over the situation. Who gives a shit whether his posts have substance or not. He was not hurting you nor throwing a stone at you etc. You did not say to Sentinel, hey man listen to these tracks before you make final judgement. NO, you devalued his opinion based on his LOOKS ... which oh so funny were not even his looks. You did not come back and admit you were wrong for devaluing his opinion based on a value that is not even a factor. That was the REAL you coming out was it not ... sure it was. So not throwing the first stone? LOL, you need to go back and rethink that but nevermind that. Your mindset will not allow you to do that. See I do know better than this, hence why I made comments. What is obvious is that YOU do not. Now workplace discrimination is an epidemic in the US Bobby. You = informed opinion? Not. It cost companies at least millions anually but they brush it under the carpet because it is not an officially federal sanctioned form of discrimination and to make it such companies are afraid they would be forced to deal with it and cost them millions in compensating Targets. Now in the UK the same problem existed and they passed some act I believe in 1996 over it. In the US only 16% of those who have taken the channels to combat it actually benefited. 51% of those who took the "manly" channels faired worse because Bobby it is not about being fair. It is about getting over on your fellow man and at his expense to include their well-being, that includes their health which can shorten their life. It is the Wild Wild West to where the Hollywood version does not exist. It is get the drop on them before they get the drop on you. It is high noon your doom and most people don't even know a gun is pointing at them because most of them have no clue what is happening to them and they simply try to do it with all this "well we can reason this. we are rational people." etc. But it is not about that at all. It is about personal gain at your expense. In essence they are doing more than stealing from you. These are not honorable people and to do it to what a lot of people would think would be the honorable way actually makes them step up their plans etc because now they know you are on to them. Se they have already planted the seeds so when you find out the woods are already grown. They now simply have to step up to get the forest more against you. Sounds like a whole big conspiracy theory doesn't it Bobby but that is one of their strengths is that others live in denial. We think we can simply work through it on the up and up through normal channels.
This is not someone's opinion of music which no matter what did not cost any member of WASP to lose money nor shorten their life some. It did neither of that to you as well. It is not the same thing. You have no idea what I have endured in my life nor how many humble pies I have eaten etc. My military indoctrination has thrust me to consistantly choose the circle when asked to choose a symbol in any corporate setting when asked, which of these symbols. Do you know what the circle represents?
But then others like to give advice to situations they know actually little to nothing about and make over simplified solutions etc.
So what did you like about the band Mercyful Fate? Are we talking simply music-wise or lyric-wise as well? The latter I somehow doubt unless you never bothered to read the lyrics. King does not always sing straight forward.
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...Good God!...devin you really do need to relax buddy!...  ...get a therapist man!...anyway...I have tons of footage via camcorder of me just improvising on the guitar devin...I have never really had the time or patience to sit down & actually learn alot of covers...getting organized & transcribing is actually what makes a truly valuable player I guess...I just like to sit down & shred...this is probably one of the main reasons I have never participated in a band setting much...so "original" stuff is indeed what I will be posting when the time comes...so just hang in there!... ...in the meanwhile you will have to find someone else to argue with...I fear you are gonna short circuit or something...Geesh!...I haven't listened to Mercyful Fate in awhile...so I'll get back to ya on favorite material etc. Later... |
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King Diamond... at first listen I wasn't too fond of the vocals. But after a while it grew on me.  Now I can actually appreciate his singing. I don't have any King Diamond (or Mercyful Fate) albums yet, but I've been thinking of purchasing the 25th anniversary edition of the concept album, "Abigail". From what I heard from it so far it seems like some pretty wicked stuff. Plus the re-release of it comes with a DVD of a live performance in '87, so that's pretty cool.  I have one question though, did King Diamond do any stage shows? Or was it only music? Just curious. |
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| King Diamond... at first listen I wasn't too fond of the vocals. But after a while it grew on me. Now I can actually appreciate his singing. I don't have any King Diamond (or Mercyful Fate) albums yet, but I've been thinking of purchasing the 25th anniversary edition of the concept album, "Abigail". From what I heard from it so far it seems like some pretty wicked stuff. Plus the re-release of it comes with a DVD of a live performance in '87, so that's pretty cool. I have one question though, did King Diamond do any stage shows? Or was it only music? Just curious. |
I cant believe it has been that long since Abigail came out. I got my first real gig as the singer for a band called Laviathon, because they heard me at a party singing Abigail. Man that brings back some memories. KD was cool, but there was only so much of that falsetto I could take. He always had great bands though. I saw him a few times and he did have a stage show. The first time I saw him he did not, it was right after he left MF and before he changed his makeup. Abigail had just come out. As his solo stuff became more popular he added a better stage show. At one point he had a couple of houses on stage that he would run through, sneaking up behind an old lady in a wheelchair and pushing her dow the stairs "Goodbye, No she Cried"! He ended the show being put in a coffin that burst into flames.
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did anyone pick up his new album?
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