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Rainbow_Lightning
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:11 pm    Post subject: Rainbow-after Dio Reply with quote

Everyone says Black Sabbath died when Ozzy left (yeah right), but I want to know if people think if Rainbow died when Dio left? "Cause I like Joe Lynn Turner and the three albums he made. What I found interesting is Ritchie Blackmore didn't forget Ronnie and a number of times I've heard other Rainbow singers sing Dio-era Rainbow songs.
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The Nomad



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As it should be. A Rainbow song is a Rainbow song, regardless who sang it originally.

I love that when Tony Martin was in Black Sabbath he sang songs from all eras. I dislike that when Ronnie came back they ignored the Tony Martin era. And I HATE that with Ozzy all they ever do is the same old Ozzy era songs.
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ManOnTheSilverMountain_DP



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, my favourite Black Sabbath singers are (in order):

1) Ronnie James Dio (the best!)
2) Ian Gillan
3) Tony Martin
4) Glenn Hughes
5) Ozzy Osbourne

I think i didn't forget anybody... I don't like Ozzy so much...

About Rainbow I can say that they've been always great, but the Dio-era was the best Rainbow era...
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Diodude



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Down to earth and Stranger in us all the most.Then the Joe Lynn Turner stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's some OK Rainbow stuff post-Dio, but nothing anywhere near as good as the three albums they did with him. It's like two different bands, really.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Rainbow-after Dio Reply with quote

Rainbow_Lightning wrote:
Everyone says Black Sabbath died when Ozzy left (yeah right), but I want to know if people think if Rainbow died when Dio left? "Cause I like Joe Lynn Turner and the three albums he made. What I found interesting is Ritchie Blackmore didn't forget Ronnie and a number of times I've heard other Rainbow singers sing Dio-era Rainbow songs.


Well yeah, as a classic metal act, Rainbow died with Ronnie left. Ritchie wanted to do something else with the band, and thats fine. I like the album with Graham Bonnet and I like the JLT stuff. There are some great songs there, but I don't rate it as highly as the first three. I never heard the last Rainbow album "Stranger in Us All".

I don't think Sabbath died when Ozzy left. Sabbath died when Ian Gillan left, was resurected for Dehumanizer, and then died again when Ronnie had a bitch fit and quit the band.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

love "zero the hero" =). What album did glen hughes sing on?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peaceman wrote:
[...] What album did glen hughes sing on?


Seventh Star, very beautiful album!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After dio left rainbow still manage to make some good songs and the songs i really loved is "street of dreams" and "all night long". Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Difficult to cure is o.k.!
But I think Stranger in us all was the way back to real Rainbow.
Hall of the mountain king is great,Ariel and Insatiable too and
Doogie White fits perfect!
Sad that it was only for one album Crying or Very sad !
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a big fan of Rainbow..maybe my favourite band ever.....so I have collected all of their cds...I like ALL the singers...everyone bring something different to the band,Joe Lynn Turner/Blackmore wrote some great songs on ''Straight Between the Eyes''and is a classic cd,when Dio left Rainbow that was the end of an era...for me,but Rainbow became a new band.I can say with hand on my heart....I treasure ALL of my Rainbow cds.Different story with Black Sabbath....I like some with Ozzy mainly the early ones,but when Dio left Black Sabbath...I never bought another cd by the band,but after reading some the guys comments on here about Tony Martin and Black Sabbath...I will have to checkout his work.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just happened to watch a Rainbow 84-Japan concert DVD with Joe Lynn Turner. Ritchie does an amazing job as always, but what strikes me... I've never before seen JLT live, but this guy is strange. He never smiles, he rarely looks at anyone at all, mostly stares into nowhere while singing. His live vocals are somewhere between solid and brilliant, his voice has a soulful touch and really shines in the quieter parts. He does best with his own songs, but clearly lacks the ability to capture his audience. His stage performance is somewhat sterile, I don't know if he's always been like this... or this was just a "cold" show. The guy's got both a voice and the looks, but something is missing. No magic there. And Dio songs by Turner... I don't know. His version of Catch The Rainbow on this DVD is well done technically, but... it hurts me all the same. He makes no attempt to sing it like Dio which is fair enough, but still... and those female backing vocals are awful throughout the show.
Well, maybe I should try and watch another one.

Holymagica, definitely give Tony Martin a listen. Amazing singer, sadly absent from the scenes for more than 10 years, but back now. Look into Headless Cross and Tyr with Black Sabbath, and the recent solo album Scream is worth it as well. The first song on this album, Raising Hell, is done by a dead drummer (drums off a tape by Cozy Powell), an old keyboarder (Geoff Nicholls, the one), a middle-aged singer (TM) and an emerging guitar player, TMs own son. Truly a historic piece!
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KillTheKing



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rainbow after Dio is awful radio rock that sounds more like Boston than Led Zeppelin. If you can't stand garbage like "Stone Cold" and "Since You Been gone" you might like Rainbow after Dio left.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whether or not you like the songs of the post Dio era, i think its worth checking out some of the solo's Ritchies plays on the later records.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blacksheep06A...cheers..I will check it Cool
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