Sweet Savage

adiszul · Holy Diver Joined: 12 Nov 2009 Posts: 185 Location: Poland

First professional band of Vivian Campbell and some kind of source of few Holy Diver tracks, very interesting...
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DioInfinitum · Joined: 21 May 2010 Posts: 262 Location: Denver, CO

I am curious, do you know the name of the actual tracks that resemble the holy diver material?
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adiszul · Holy Diver Joined: 12 Nov 2009 Posts: 185 Location: Poland

i don't know very much about that, for example I've heard that "Rainbow in the dark" is reworked version of "Lady Marion" by sweet savage, and the riff from "Caught in the middle" is also from Sweet Savage song called "Straight to the heart"...

but i haven't heard them and i don't know anything more, someone wants help??

I've heard that is one of the reasons of conflict between Ronnie and Campbell...

someone could tell me more please??
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piracy_of_life · Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:03 pm Post subject:

I did some quick research on it and it doesn't look like there is much out there on this "Lady Marion" song. I found one website that has a cd reissue of their first single, and it claims the song was written in 1980. The song "Straight through the Heart" didn't come out until a single released in 1984, a year after Holy Diver. This seems to be the story with a lot of the songs that people are making these claims about.

Vivian Campbell left Sweet Savage while they were still pretty young. I mean there was only a demo and a couple singles, there was nothing major. My guess is that when he joined Dio, he took with him some of the songs or riffs Sweet Savage had been working on and presented them as new material to Dio.

I haven't been able to find any audio samples of the Lady Marion song online yet ...I'm interested in hearing just how similar these two songs are
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piracy_of_life · Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:07 pm Post subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLuYJR1zwyE
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I keep finding more stuff..

olivious the drummer · Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:39 am Post subject:

Bugger me! No one can argue that Viv lifted thar riff! Never heard any of his early stuff befoe but my god that is something else! BUT assuming he had the rights to the riff he hasnt done anything wrong.
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piracy_of_life · Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:40 am Post subject:

olivious the drummer · Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:30 am Post subject:

This is a really fascinating subject..........thanks for bringing this to our attention. I doubt we will ever know the full story but there in no question he bought that riff to Dio. Wonder if there are other such obvious ones.......time to search the web!
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DioInfinitum · Joined: 21 May 2010 Posts: 262 Location: Denver, CO

Yes, the straight through the heart riff is soooooo 'Caught in the Middle.'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLuYJR1zwyE

Caught in the middle is better of course.

I couldn't find that Lady Marion on youtube which surprised me a little. I get a kick out of the comparison.

I also once compared Randy Rhodes pre Ozzy stuff with a few things he did with Ozzy. There was much more in that music which was Randy for which Ozzy gets credit for as the main face.

Interesting stuff...would def like if someone can post that lady marion track.
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adiszul · Holy Diver Joined: 12 Nov 2009 Posts: 185 Location: Poland

i found that: