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DevinMacGregor
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

really long nick name wrote:
Bobby66 wrote:
I understand how the wealth has been being disbursed Devin...but we cant f**k w/ capitalism/the law now can we?... Twisted Evil

Wink ...what gets me is how they have the nerve to blame the workers/unions for organizing to secure some kind of decent standard of living... Confused ...& I wonder which TDYK song could apply here?...hmmm?...Eating the fucking Cannibals MAYBE... Evil or Very Mad


...and myself, I have no hate for Devin.

That's correct Bobby boy. The more govt fucks with capitalism the more the economy develops into socialism. It's like an equation. So therefore, we can't have our cake and eat it to. In other words, We cannot prosper and have complete regulation at the same time. I say WE because it is a global economy. In and outside the free world. I doubt that Bobby and many Americans alike are unknowingly dupes to the greater machine we call economics. I doubt they are as naive as suggested by butt munch, but he grants himself to being the mounted caviler for Dio site cause according to him, dio members and millions cannot think for themselves. If tech guy who makes 57k when he could or should be making 70k or so would butt the fuck out of commenting on economics, and actually studied it, he would know that.


Actually I have studied it cock the sucker from economists and historians and why does Bobby have to be a boy? If you have actually studied history you would see the patterns that have happened over and over again. In the early 30s the US Administration along with the Fed thought the economy would just bounce back but it did not. Historical fact. So they did nothing and banks started to close. Historical fact. Why did they close? Because they did not have enough printed money to make transactions. Historical fact. Upper banks reduced the number of loans it issued. Historical fact. Other banks borrow from these banks to do business. Due to this they were unable to get the funds to make their notes. Historical fact. Businesses who depend on loans to buy materials and pay for labor to meet their customer needs were unable to do this and they cut back on jobs. 50% of the working population was unemployed which was half that percentage with the rest with reduced hours and less pay. Historical fact. This caused a panic and people ran to their bank to withdraw their money. This caused more banks to close. Historical fact. This Bobby destroyed even those who did not overextend themselves in the 20s and simply played it safe. They worked and saved yet the bank closed and they lost all their money. Historical facts. The US economy did not fully recover till 1943 and it was the largest US jobs bill ever known. Historical fact. Capitalism put us IN the hole and it was not getting us out. It was HUGE govt spending that got us out of it. Historical fact. This US Administration does not want the underlining economy to collapse because that will bring us into another great depression.

Apparently they are naive or they would not had been taking out risky loans by cock the suckers like those in finance and put us in this great financial mess that we are in but they are smart enough not to buy a piece of crap vehicle when they can get more bang for the buck with another.

The American people within the last 20 years have already bailed out the banks before due to regulations that were lifted to which bankers could not control themselves. The American people as well within the last 20 years have bailed out Savings & Loans for the same reasons. The American people in the last 20 years have watched cock the suckers at the top destroy company pension plans leaving them with no retirement while those on top keep their retirement. The list goes on.

If cock the sucker would actually had studied history of economics at least in the US he would has seen what unfettered capitalism was like in the US. Then compare that to post 30s one would see a stark difference, more people prospered in the latter period than previous. Funny how we prospered and yet the HIGHEST tax bracket was 90% and then over 90% under a REPUBLICAN president in the 50s when we were so anti communism with this red scare.

The problem is Bobby is that some whine about regulations and it was NEVER complete regulation. Safety guards were undone Bobby and what happened? Those on the top of the food chain acted irresponsible they then speak to the uneducated, ignorant, naive, people and convince them that what they may want and cannot afford is what they desperately need and must spend every dollar today and for years to come.

Now what I make which was incorrectly stated and what I want to make have no bearing on the fact that we ALL should be reading up on economics. Why? Because fucks who claim to work in finance do not like it. They want you to trust them. They do not want you to be knowledgeable because they cannot snowball you and then act like they did you a favor and are your friend. They want your money and they want the commission they get from your money. No matter what profession we do for a living we all deal with economics. Someone who tells you not to talk about it is just some bologna pole pounder.

Cock the suckers out there act like this is communism ... questioning why someone makes 54 million a year and why can't 4 million suffice as if they could not still do their job and be well of the rest of their life. As said the President of the US makes 400K a year and is charge of the largest US corporation. Global economies have nothing to do with this. Global economy is a cock sucker red herring. Real wages are still down from what they were 30 years ago all the while we are communists for even suggesting that we are underpaid. Gee the gall of us.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twisted Evil ...HA HA...You Guys ROCK!... Laughing

...I learn alot here... Cool

...but how does this argument pertain to H&H Lyrics?... Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bobby66 wrote:
Twisted Evil ...HA HA...You Guys ROCK!... Laughing

...I learn a lot here... Cool

...but how does this argument pertain to H&H Lyrics?... Wink


It doesn't and that is the kicker.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

piracy_of_life wrote:
The lyrics in Bible Black make me furious. He goes so out of his way to rhyme, it's ridiculous. The title of the song itself makes me mad, it's english, we put adjectives before the noun. And the line "what's this world I see, who are you and who are me" ...seriously!? is it that important for the song to rhyme!?!
I think it's really annoying too when everything has to rhyme (a true musician knows that it doesn't. unless you're doing rap and hip hop)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In fact the title is Russian
We put adjectives where ever we like
and not only them
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FlyingWolf wrote:
In fact the title is Russian
We put adjectives where ever we like
and not only them


This is not simply poetry to be read but is to be sung and it has to have some kind of meter to it or flow that works. To sing black bible would be different than bible black.

We can look at who are you and who are me and say damn that is bad English but it may not only be to rhyme but how it flows when sung and sung to music. They usually write the music first then lyrics to match.

Who are you and who am I may not sound the same as who are you and who are me.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point Devin
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not english speaking native, I'he started to learn english many years ago because of Ronnie's lyrics. I know that my english is not perfect, but I can understand almost everything and, of course, can explain what I want to say. According me the Ronnie's lyrics is more that phrases and words, you need to "see" the spirit of his lirycs. So, I can say that understand his lirycs. The grammar rules are written in the manuals, and not in the Bible, especially in Bible in black color! Very Happy So, just keep rocking, and let God bless Ronnie!
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