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fiddlequeen07
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally got this to work--Holymagica suggested I post a pic--So here's a pic of my awesome Dio necklace that I wear almost every day, much to my mother's dismay. (She's not the fan that I am!)



Now to get back on topic...I know I'm just one of many DIO fans here in the States, waiting patiently for another US tour. Personally, I'd be perfectly happy with club dates, though Rainbowinthedrk would prefer amphitheater shows. Any other opinions? For those of you getting the winter tour this year: What are these European venues like?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

personally I would like to see a club tour, since I have never seen ronnie in a club, only in large arenas and outdoor ampitheaters. I would be okay with a festival tour as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey fiddlequeen07

Most of the UK venues are 2.5k to 3k venues which is a good size as where ever you are you feel very close to the stage!

I've seen Dio is all sorts of venues over the years and much prefer the smaller gigs......you feel so much more connected to the band.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiddlequeen07 Smile
I love the DIO necklace...you did not have to post a picture of yourself.
Just your neck would have been enough Laughing
Hey don't worry, I am a connoisseur of the erotism of Dracula Laughing A long slender neck was more than enough Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holymagica wrote:
fiddlequeen07 Smile
I love the DIO necklace...you did not have to post a picture of yourself.
Just your neck would have been enough Laughing
Hey don't worry, I am a connoisseur of the erotism of Dracula Laughing A long slender neck was more than enough Laughing


Behave yourself HM! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alitivity wrote:
personally I would like to see a club tour, since I have never seen ronnie in a club, only in large arenas and outdoor ampitheaters. I would be okay with a festival tour as well.


I'm pretty much in agreement with you here, altivity. I think it would be great to see the guys play smaller gigs--like olivious pointed out, you feel much more connected that way. Up-close-and-personal, that's the way to go. My opinion is that Dio doesn't need a big, explosive stage show at a big venue (awesome as that is). Their music and showmanship is all we fans really need.

But I think the problem here in the US is that many people who were once fans of Dio have sort of lost track of the band--they aren't the fans who visit the official website to keep up with the news, but I know they would absolutely love to see a DIO show again, even if only for reasons of nostalgia. A US tour would be a great way to bring back the magic for those fans who think it's all just a memory now. The added benefit is that the tour would allow us newer fans to finally experience the real magic of a live show! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand how folks can lose track of DIO from the 80s to Now Confused
I am not sure what happened in the US but I do know that in Europe and especially the UK, there is a little more loyalty towards certain bands...don't take this wrong way becoz I have read enough posts from North American fans to know they have always stayed loyal to DIO.
But there some fans missing...maybe to some back then, Heavy Metal was just fashion and not a way of life.


Anyway here is a quote from Ronnie James Dio
“...I like the intimacy of small clubs. It’s where I really found my feet, and I see it as an opportunity to “broaden out” and invite a new generation of potential fans to see what Dio is all about... Stadium shows are frightfully expensive, and they lose a great degree of personality in terms of “seeing” and “feeling” of what’s going on, on the stage. This may be the “digital age,” but some of us would rather shake hands and sing to someone in the front row than have our distorted image thrown up on a technotronic screen...” Ronnie would rather “treat you all to a more intimate sort of show.”
“I’ve always thought self-importance was one of the worst things you could ever deal with. These kids... If you stay in touch, if you take the time to spend time with them, which I do after every single show I’ve ever played to this day, they’ll stick with you your whole carreer. That’s where the longevity comes in. When I do a gig, I always meet them [the fans] afterwards. It’s a connection. I learn from it.”
He describes his following as “People who believe in us and who believe in themselves. They have something to prove to themselves”
When questioned about the loyal support of his fans he comments “I absolutely love it, and I’m flattered by it... I’d like to take a moment to thank each and every one of you who could never quite be touched by impersonal recognition in an album sleeve. I’ve tried to meet your gaze at each and every concert, or at seat to touch your hearts and minds through every song I’ve sung. I hope I’ve succeeded in giving you a special moment in time in which you said “Perhaps I actually do matter to this guy...” You do. You have. You always will. My deepest regret is that I can’t thank each and every one of you personally for all you’ve given me. The Magic never dies, as long as we cling fast to what matters most. After all, Dio wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for all of you...”
“There’s a built in relationship between an artist and his fans, a sacred trust if you will.”
“The fans react to my music because they know there’s something good, something positive going on... I tend to present lyrics that show the underdog can win - which ties in the medieval values that I’ve always tried to present in my songs - kind of a modern day Robin Hood. That’s a very rock and roll attitude. Heavy metal doesn’t have to be about fast cars and women; it can be uplifting on a number of levels.”
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's another beautiful and classy quote from the man we all so respect and admire. This is exactly why I am a loyal fan--he deserves it; he has earned our respect and admiration, and I don't think he would ever disappoint his fans. I know nothing he has done to date has disappointed me.

The people I've spoken to about Dio (the ones who see the necklace and say, "Oh yeah, they're awesome, I saw them in concert years ago...") are always surprised to hear from me that Ronnie is still in the business and DIO is still doing tours. They give me that doubtful look that says, "I don't think you really know what you're talking about, dumb girl." But despite their doubts, I know the news, and I'm always willing to share it with anyone who'll listen. And even to people who would probably rather not listen, but do so anyway just to be courteous.

Maybe it's that these people have "grown out" of live music. Or maybe something called life hit them and they just felt they had to take music off their lists of priorities.

Whatever the reason, I have no doubt they'd love to see another show. And I really think the smaller shows would be perfect. I think the loyalty is still there--but some people have stifled it so much that they don't even remember it's still there. Goodness knows I get a ton of criticism from friends and family for being "too much of a fan." The unfortunate thing is that much of our society looks at it as something immature. Certainly some other metal bands have brought a less-than-stellar image to the genre. But nothing would reignite that latent Dio loyalty like a live show.

...Because no one else could ever bring more class and gentility to a live concert than Ronnie James Dio. He does things right--never losing the edge, the power, the excitement...but never acting arrogant, ignorant, or trashy, as so many of them do.

It is truly an honor to be a fan. I only hope that more people will continue to have the opportunity to experience it.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The real problem is that in America we have been taught to follow. Dio was a huge band in the 80's up into the early 90s. but as the record companies changed the face of music they also made people feel that if you didnt move along with them you were dated and irrekevant. So as music changed people drifted away from bands like Dio and became fans of the new genre being sold.

What the record companies didnt count on was our own nostalgia, and our memories of the fun times we had listening to our favorite bands. so after a while we started drifting back to what we actually liked instead of what we were told to like. Not only have Dio fans rediscovered him, we are also playing this music to our kids and developing a newer younger fan base.

Unfortunately it may take too much time for Ronnie to gain confidence in the american market again. We may never see a US tour, but I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know I'm keeping my fingers crossed! I talk all the time about waiting for DIO to tour the US, and my friends (lesser fans than I) give me that pity-look that says, "It's a shame such a brilliant mind could be reduced to wishful thoughts that will never be reality."

Of course, I know what they're thinking and I give them a good dose of Dio lyrics, like, "You don't believe in someday and the truth is what you prove." Personally, I like to dream.

Anyway, I consider myself lucky to have found DIO--my parents are not fans, and I grew up listening to a completely different musical genre altogether...but better late than never, no?

But I agree with you, altivity. The loyalty to the band is here, even if it stems simply from nostalgia. And that's actually the reason I started this thread--in hopes of getting American fans to put out their thoughts about DIO; why we're fans, why we'd love to see a US tour, etc. I suppose I was hoping to drum up some new support.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I suppose I was hoping to drum up some new support.


Nothing wrong in that... Wink

I think thats the only difference between UK and USA.
Its never been a case of nostalgia with DIO over here he has never been away.

There is a lot great new bands from Europe that ALWAYS forget about touring in the UK . Mad
These young bands just don't get it...if you leave the UK off your tour, fans will not stay loyal and may even think twice about buying your cds.I could name a few who are really pissing me off, always leaving the UK off a tour.
There is a huge metal community out there in the UK but no one will take a gamble and while these bands stay away from the UK.
Us Brits will keep supporting the acts that do come here and also local bands in our cities.There is folks out there paying to watch local talent in some great venues only the signed bands could dream of playing.
Kamelot came to Scotland and played in the worse shit hole you could choose for a band Confused ...The Cathouse sorry to Glasgow folks but that place is a dump...they could have played in a much better venues, that would have cost nothing...thanx to the credit crunch there is events managers begging to have there venues filled and folks drinking their beer.
I will not name this band but they have 3 cds out so far....the idea was to bring them to Scotland...the band only wanted expenses but someone in the record company talked them out of it Confused ...saying that their maybe was no market for this kind of music in Scotland Mad I was like stuff you Rolling Eyes

Dio always comes back to Scotland and never leaves it off the tour list...they know that fans will come from all over Scotland to see him wherever he is playing.
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Thats why Nevermet will play Scotland someday, as soon as you set up the show that is Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We never get any cool bands like Kamelot, either. Ugh...unless you happen to be backed by the Disney corporation, you really aren't going to have much attention here in the US, it seems. Of course, we also really love anyone on American Idol!

*Note: That last sentence was laded with sarcasm, though it's difficult to convey such things over the Internet.

Perhaps I shouldn't complain too much. I would absolutely love to see Dio tour the US (that really goes without saying), but I'm sure it isn't a simple thing to plan. This is a pretty big place, and without the presence of obvious and overt loyalty to the band, it probably looks like a risky business endeavor to do an American tour.

Curse American society and its infantile taste in music! *shakes fist* Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kamelot does tour the US. they were her a couple of years ago, you may want to watch for US dates on their site. The place they played in Cleveland is a real shit hole, but they did come. You may have to take a road trip, but you never know they may come closer than you think.
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