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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:45 am Post subject: 'If We'd Written This Album With Ozzy...' |
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GEEZER BUTLER: 'If We'd Written This Album With OZZY, We'd Still Be Working On The First Track'
“If we’d written this album with Ozzy, we’d still
be working on the first track.” Geezer Butler laughs when he says this, but he’s not actually joking. Sitting in a sterile meeting room at Rhino Records in Burbank, Black Sabbath’s legendary bassist and lyricist knows of what he speaks: When Butler and fellow metal gurus Tony Iommi and Bill Ward attempted to record new Sabbath material with Osbourne back in 2001 after the Drab Four’s triumphant Reunion cycle, the future television celebrity couldn’t be bothered.
“We wrote about six songs, but the keyboard player, Geoff Nicholls, came up with the vocal melodies because Ozzy wasn’t really interested,” Butler reveals. “I didn’t like the stuff that was coming out at all. I wanted it to be more like classic Sabbath, like the first three albums. No strings, no ballads, nothing like that. But Ozzy wanted it to be more like an Ozzy album, so we didn’t agree on what it should be straight away.”
Butler laughs again, but again, he’s not even slightly kidding: “Rick Rubin wanted to produce it until he heard what we did.”
Enter Ronnie James Dio. Ronnie James-ah. In late 2006, Butler and Iommi hook up with Ozzy’s early ’80s replacement and Mob Rules/Dehumanizer/longtime Dio skin-beater Vinny Appice to record three new songs for Sabbath’s The Dio Years compilation. Which in turn spawns a one-month tour under the Heaven and Hell moniker, culminating in a live album and concert video recorded at Radio City Music Hall. The punters and promoters just cannot get enough at this point, not with “Neon Knights” and “Mob Rules” and “Children of the Sea” still ringing in their ears like the goddamn national anthem, so the Metal Masters tour is quickly assembled. For three weeks in August 2008, Priest, Motörhead and Testament fill the arena-void before the hot live Dio action commences. It’s like 1981 all over again, except for the Testament part. Which brings us to The Devil You Know, the new album from Heaven and Hell, the band formerly known as Black Sabbath. But the details here are perhaps best left unspoken, if not to protect the innocent, then most certainly to avoid slagging the guilty. Suffice it to say: When we tell our old cross-country comrade-in-arms, Classic Rock and Metal Hammer scribe Ken “Sleazegrinder” McIntyre, that The Devil You Know is considerably less than satisfying, he immediately points out the irrefutable: “Fuck it,” he says. “They’ve done enough for rock ‘n’ roll already.” |
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Rhonda Ross

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panayiotis1984

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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:07 am Post subject: |
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The truth is that Ozzy doesn't communicate with reality anymore. So much drugs... How can he write a good album. But we respect his contribution to the metal music. Peace _________________ Video games are bad for you? That what they said about Rock 'n' Roll... |
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The Sentinel

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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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And this is why Iommi/Butler/Appice/Dio will forever more be regarded as "Heaven And Hell" and not Black Sabbath.
Yeah, Ozzy's had his time with Black Sabbath, but it's time time to lay that particular ghost to rest, and let's anticipate a dark future with H&H!!!!!!
 _________________ Sick of all of this
The suffering and we just carry on
Isn't it time we care and lose the hate
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Bobby66

Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 439 Location: Hades
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| Rhonda Ross wrote: |
| And it would be a sure flop! |
...Nonsense Rhonda...Of course I'm thrilled that the new album is with Ronnie at the Helm...but to call Ozzy's work w/ Sabbath a Flop is simply ridiculous...
...Anyway, Where is Rhinosaur???...Joe Sieglers Black Sabbath forum is holding a "cover art contest" to which Tony Iommi himself will be a judge!!!...here's the link Rhino...HM, Maybe you would know how to get in touch with him?
http://www.black-sabbath.com/news/2009/02/win_an_autographed_copy_of_the_devil_you_know.html _________________ ...As long as it's NOT about love... |
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The Sentinel

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 733 Location: If I'm on-line, sat at the pc
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Bobby66 wrote: |
| Rhonda Ross wrote: |
| And it would be a sure flop! |
...Nonsense Rhonda...Of course I'm thrilled that the new album is with Ronnie at the Helm...but to call Ozzy's work w/ Sabbath a Flop is simply ridiculous...
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I don't think Rhonda's reffering to Ozzy's work "per se", just voicing an opinion that if Ozzy could've been arsed to actually creatively contributed to another Black Sabbath album, it would flop.
I don't feel anyone in their right mind could say that Ozzy's previous Sabbath albums have flopped. Well, not that many, anyway...........
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alitivity Holy Diver

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Everyone forgets that Ozzy doesnt write his own material, so an album with Ozzy would only be as good as the writing itself, and Bob Daisley doesnt play with Sabbath  _________________ Check out Al Diamond Phillips/Nevermet on the web
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